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04-08-2009 1 LAS CRUCES METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION 2 POLICY COMMITTEE (PC) MEETING 3 4 Following are the minutes from the MPO Policy Committee (PC) meeting held on 5 Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 5 00 p m at City Hall Council Chambers, 200 N Church 6 St., Las Cruces, New Mexico 7 8 9 MEMBERS PRESENT Mayor Michael Cadena (Town of Mesilla) 10 Councilor Gil Jones (CLC) 11 Councillor Sharon Thomas (CLC) 12 Trustee Carlos Arzabal (Town of Mesilla) 13 Trustee Sam Bernal (Town of Mesilla) 14 Leticia Duarte-Benavidez (DAC) 15 16 MEMBERS ABSENT Scott Krahling (DAC) 17 Councillor Dolores Archuleta (City of Las Cruces) 18 Commissioner Karen Perez (DAC) 19 20 STAFF PRESENT. Tom Murphy (Las Cruces MPO) 21 Andy Hume (Las Cruces MPO) 22 Caerllion Thomas (Las Cruces MPO) 23 Becky Eich, Transcriptionist 24 25 OTHERS PRESENT Susan Krueger Debbie Lujan 26 Andrew Guerra Trina Witter 27 Jared Lee Jean Conway 28 Greg Walke, NMSU Debra Guenther 29 Mike Gallagher, NMDOT Rose Choneska 30 Helen Zagona Howard Barkley 31 Samuel White Gary Yabumoto 32 Henry Corneles, DAC Theo Holzhausen 33 Ricardo Dominguez, EPMPO Brett Woywood 34 Dan Soriano, CLC Filberto Castorena 35 Mercy Roybal Gloria Martinez 36 Beverly Chambers Lloyd Chambers 37 Yvone Esparza Albert Esparza 38 Mary Pierce Will Endruweit 39 Lee Thielman Lane Littlefield 40 Kathe Stark George Pearson 41 42 1 CALL TO ORDER (5 04 p m ) 43 44 Cadena Good evening and welcome to the MPO Policy Committee meeting I'm 45 the Chair, Mayor Cadena from Mesilla I am calling the meeting to order, 46 staff if you can have a roll call 1 1 2 Murphy- Trustee Arzabal 3 4 Arzabal Here 5 6 Murphy- Councilor Thomas 7 8 S Thomas Here 9 10 Murphy- Trustee Bernal 11 12 Bernal Here 13 14 Murphy Commissioner Benavidez. 15 16 Benavidez Here 17 18 Murphy- Mayor Cadena 19 20 Cadena Here 21 22 Arzabal And Mr Jones is here 23 24 Cadena. For the record, if you'll take a count when Councilor Jones walks in And 1 25 guess for the record you might want to note who's absent. 26 27 Murphy- Okay, absent we have Commissioner Perez, Commissioner Krahling, and 28 Mayor Pro-Tem Archuleta 29 30 Cadena Very good 31 32 2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST INQUIRY 33 34 Cadena. Conflict of interest that has not already been noted, anybody on the Policy 35 Committee? 36 37 3. PUBLIC COMMENT 38 39 Cadena If not, I'll move onto public comments, and these are comments on 40 anything that is not on the agenda, any public comments, something not 41 on the agenda? Come on up 42 43 4 CONSENT AGENDA Those items on the consent agenda and those indicated 44 by an asterisk (*) will be voted on by one motion with the acceptance of the 45 agenda. Any Policy Committee member may remove an item from the consent 46 agenda for discussion by the Committee 2 1 2 Cadena. The consent agenda I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent 3 agenda. 4 5 Arzabal So moved 6 7 Bernal Second 8 9 Cadena Any discussion, all in favor of the consent agenda? 10 11 ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS -AYE 12 13 Cadena Anyone opposed? Consent agenda passes 14 15 5. * APPROVAL OF MINUTES February 11, 2009 16 17 6 ACTION ITEMS 18 19 61 Resolution 09-05 A Resolution Amending the Transportation 20 Improvement Program Application and Evaluation Scoring 21 22 Cadena Where are we? Action items, Resolution 6 1, that's Resolution 09-05, a 23 resolution amending the transportation improvement program application 24 and evaluation scoring Tom 25 26 Murphy- Thank you Mr Chairman Resolution 09-05 is a cleanup resolution kind of 27 based on our last meeting, if you recall we had some questions 28 concerning the Committee members breaking out by jurisdiction to assign 29 points to the American Recovery Act projects We discussed it over with 30 the MPO's fiscal agent, attorney, the attorney for the City, and we also 31 discussed it with the County attorney who had also had discussions with 32 the State Attorney General's office The conclusion upon that is that there 33 is a potential quorum when the County and town would break out as in 34 separate session to decide which projects for their that they would 35 assign their TIP points to being that the three members of the town on the 36 Board and the three members of the County on the Board each constitute 37 quorums of their legislative bodies So what we had done, was we have 38 decided to change the application evaluation scoring method whereby 39 each jurisdiction does not have 10 points to assign to each project, rather 40 each individual member on the Policy Committee can individually assign 41 five points to any TIP project as they see fit. This precludes you having to 42 call a recess and have the jurisdictions meet in session where there was a 43 questionable open meeting violation So that is the essential nature of this 44 amendment. We did take this before the TAC last month, they 45 recommended approval, and staff is recommending that you approve this 46 And then also for the record, Councilor Jones is now with us 3 1 2 Jones Thank you 3 4 Arzabal Mr Mayor, this is the same thing we've been talking about for numerous 5 meetings Am I correct in this, Mr Murphy? 6 7 Murphy- Yes, Trustee Arzabal 8 9 Arzabal And then we talked about when we had to do the points, but I make a 10 motion to approve Resolution 09-05 11 12 Jo Second 13 14 Cadena Motion and seconded for this resolution We appreciate you doing the 15 research and getting this done Are there any further questions/ 16 discussion? No Let me have a roll vote please 17 18 Murphy- Trustee Arzabal 19 20 Arzabal Yes 21 22 Murphy- Councilor Jones 23 24 Jones Yes 25 26 Murphy- Councilor Thomas 27 28 S Thomas Yes 29 30 Murphy- Trustee Bernal 31 32 Bernal Yes 33 34 Murphy- Commissioner Benavidez. 35 36 Benavidez: Yes 37 38 Murphy- Mr Mayor 39 40 Cadena Yes 41 42 6.2. Resolution 09-06 A Resolution Adopting the 2009-2010 Unified Planning 43 Work Program (UPWP) 44 45 Cadena Resolution 09-06, a resolution adopting the 2009-2010 Unified Planning 46 Work Program (UPWP) Tom 4 1 2 Murphy- Mr Chair, members of the Committee this is for the adoption of the MPO's 3 2009-2010 Unified Planning Work Program Those of you who have been 4 a long time on the Board you recognize this as our annual product which 5 reflects the tasks that MPO staff and the MPO is going to be involved with 6 in the upcoming fiscal year It covers the July 1st through June 30th time 7 period This particular UPWP, if approved, would go into effect July 1st, 8 2009 Traditionally the UPWP covers one year as this document, but just 9 to let you know for next year staff intends to bring back a two year UPWP 10 Within the document funding sources for each study and task are 11 identified This serves as a basis as our contract with the New Mexico 12 Department of Transportation for reimbursement with PL funds and 13 Federal Transit Administration Planning funds And then also it identifies 14 each of the different agencies that will be involved within each planning 15 task. The structure of the UPWP, we essentially have it broken down into 16 five areas, program, support, administration, general development and 17 comprehensive planning, things like our traffic count program is under 18 that. Long range transportation plan, these cover items such as the 19 Metropolitan Transportation Plan which we're currently undergoing an 20 update The short range transportation planning is more systems level It 21 deals with intelligent transportation systems and work that we would be 22 involved in that. And an implementation really kind of puts in the items 23 that we coordinate with your local governments, for instance with both the 24 County and the City we're involved in plan review We also have the TIP 25 in this section which you know is the major implementation work item for 26 the MPO 27 1 just want to go over some of the changes from the 2008-2009 TIP, 28 or UPWP for this upcoming year; we intend to start implementation of the 29 Location Study recommendations We anticipate some bi-law changes 30 that come with the new recommendations Also, the Department of 31 Transportation is going to pursue a new JPA with each of your 32 jurisdictions, and there may be some bi-law changes that this Committee 33 will have to enact if a new JPA were to be adopted It talks about seeing 34 an increased coordination with the EI Paso MPO which we've been 35 gearing up in recent years, but that's been another recommendation of the 36 Location Study I'd like to take this opportunity also to point out Mr 37 Dominguez from the EI Paso MPO who's been attending our meetings and 38 we've been attending their meetings to help out the coordination And 39 then the Location Study also called out for an increased TIP coordination 40 with the Department of Transportation 41 Another change to the UPWP is we're going to be undergoing a 42 long range transit plan with RoadRUNNER transit. We intend on hiring 43 out for a contractor in order to complete this work. This utilizes a one-time 44 increase that we've received in the FTA funding Part of that we plan on 45 investigating potential for new services for RoadRUNNER transit; such as 46 park and ride, express bus Also look at the potential for transit oriented 5 I development in the area We hope to have that as part of the long range 2 plan We'll be having a more developed RFP which we'll come back and 3 share with this body as details emerge on that. We're also updating our 4 transit forecast model to reflect the new routes that RoadRUNNER transit 5 implemented last year We're also paying for this out of the increased 6 5305 funding This will incorporate the two-way route structure that 7 RoadRUNNER transit implemented 8 Another change is MPO staff is going to have a lesser involvement 9 with the South Central Regional Transit District. We're near completion on 10 the work that we've anticipated with that. The service and financial plan 11 expect to be adopted early next fiscal year, by August, at which point the 12 intense planning that the MPO is able to assist with won't be needed and 13 we'll be able to pass that function on more to the Council of Governments 14 We also have some change in the Safe Routes to School program We're 15 in the process of hiring a Safe Routes to School coordinator to work with 16 the school systems in the region You'll perhaps recall this, we did a TIP 17 amendment a couple of months ago to bring this funding in It's a grant 18 we got from the state Safe Routes to School Program It's funded for two 19 years and so we'll have the position in the next two UPWPs 20 And then the big change, our Transport 2040, the update of the 21 MTP It's due no later than June 2010 We're having increased BPAC 22 and Policy Committee meetings over what we've had in the past, about 23 nine each a year as opposed to six We've also been convening sub 24 committees of the TAC to assist staff in putting together that plan And 25 then we also foresee two more rounds of public involvement and 26 stakeholder meetings associated with the MTP update With that, if there 27 aren't any questions, staff would request a motion for approval of the 28 2009-2010 Unified Planning Work Program 29 30 Cadena Let's have a motion and a second first. 31 32 S Thomas I so move 33 34 Jones Second 35 36 Cadena Moved by Councilor Thomas, seconded by Councilor Jones Yeah, 37 there's a question, Councilor Thomas 38 39 S Thomas Yeah, I had a question Well it's more of a comment. You mentioned in 40 here that in the Long Range Transportation Plan you're going to be 41 working with RoadRUNNER transit and so I just want to bring up that I'm 42 Chair of the Affordable Housing Ad-hoc Committee and one of the 43 recommendations they're going to make is that we work with transit 44 corridors and affordable housing So is it possible to have some 45 connections there I don't know we've now voted on the final draft of 46 the recommendations The Committee is going to continue to meet 6 c I though for a while to work on some of these things So at some point 2 maybe there needs to be some connection there And then in our 3 conversation today in the City Council we were talking about impact fees 4 Again, we were talking about priority corridors as well I don't know how 5 to explain that, but we're still at the very beginning of the discussion But 6 we are talking about priority corridors and some other options that we're 7 throwing out were less impact fees or some emphasis on priority corridors, 8 so I'm just asking that we make sure we coordinate with some of the other 9 activities that are going on at least in the City and with the County and 10 Town of Mesilla have activities and the County, then I hope we can 11 hear from them as well 12 13 Cadena Thank you Councilor Thomas Tom 14 15 Murphy- Mr Chair, Councilor Thomas, on that note that's an excellent suggestion 16 about looking at the corridors My initial conversations with Mike 17 Bartholomew and you know that's certainly something that's on his mind in 18 order to implement. And then as far as the connection with affordable 19 housing, I've already had discussions with Mr Dollahon and staff fully 20 intends to have his group involved in helping us scope out any RFP for 21 long range transit plan 22 23 S Thomas Thank you 24 25 Cadena Thank you, anyone else? I believe we had a motion and a second, can 1 26 have a roll call vote 27 28 Murphy- Trustee Arzabal 29 30 Arzabal Yes 31 32 Murphy- Councilor Jones 33 34 Jones Yes 35 36 Murphy- Councilor Thomas 37 38 S Thomas Yes 39 40 Murphy- Trustee Bernal 41 42 Bernal Yes 43 44 Murphy Commissioner Benavidez 45 46 Benavidez: Yes 7 1 2 Cadena Do you want my vote? 3 4 Murphy- Sorry, Mr Mayor 5 6 Cadena Yes Alright, motion does pass 7 8 6.3 Resolution 09-07• A Resolution Adopting the 2010-2015 Transportation 9 Improvement Program (TIP) 10 11 Cadena We're going to move on to Resolution 09-07 That's a resolution adopting 12 the 2010-2015 Transportation Improvement Program, the TIP I think 13 that's what most of our visitors are here for today So just a little 14 background, we are going to we do have 10 projects and I believe we 15 have 10 presentations, so we're going to utilize the timer here I'm going 16 to ask Trustee Arzabal to be my timer Just to be fair to all the 17 presentations, all the projects, we're going to give you 10 minutes 1 18 believe it gives you a warning when you need to wrap it up Then what 19 we're going to do is we're going to do all 10 presentations and then 20 Committee members, if you have specific questions about a specific 21 project, what I want to ask you to do is jot it down and then we'll go project 22 by project and ask questions and make more comments, and then the 23 presenters will be given a chance to answer those questions So this 10 24 minutes does not include your question and answer period, we'll do that at 25 the end and if there are people that the presenters need to recognize, 26 please do so, that are here supporting a certain project, anything else? 27 Andy that you want to add to that? 28 29 Hume Actually Mr Chair, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go through sort of a 30 very brief timeline of what brought us up to this evening, and then I'll put 31 on basically the process you just explained, I'll put up on the screen for 32 everyone to see as well 33 34 Cadena Okay, very good 35 36 Hume First of all Mr Chairman, members of the Committee and our guests this 37 evening, I apologize for my tardiness We will get things moving along 38 through with the TIP ranking process for this evening As a brief timeline 39 that brought us up to this point, I have a bulleted list here on the screen 40 showing the process by which we have arrived to this evening We had 41 an open call for projects during which we received 11 TIP applications 42 We determined during the ranking and scoring process that one of the 43 applications was for a project that was outside of our MPO area and we 44 have since forwarded that project on to the El Paso MPO Staff reviewed 45 the projects, the advisory committees also reviewed them and scored 46 them, and the final ranking will be done by you all this evening as the 8 I Policy Committee and the MPO What we will do is we will include those 2 projects as unfunded projects into the 2010-2015 Transportation 3 Improvement Program 4 This I believe is a brief synopsis of what Mayor Cadena brought out 5 for us for tonight's process We'll hear each project one at a time At that 6 time we will entertain, after the presentation we will entertain Committee 7 questions and comments, then we will entertain public questions and 8 comments Then after all the projects are we've heard all the projects, 9 as you noted in your first resolution 09-05, you all have five discretionary 10 points, each one of you have that. And so you will go ahead and apply 11 those points as you see fit. We'll have a spread sheet up and we'll be able 12 to show those, and then we'll tabulate the final ranking and then you can 13 adopt the 2010-2015 14 15 Cadena Andy, let me interrupt you since this is a new process for the Committee, 16 just to keep in mind while we're doing this and we're not going to do it until 17 the end, is with those five points you can pick five projects and give them 18 one point each, you can pick one project and give it five points, or 19 anywhere in between there I just wanted to make sure we're all clear on 20 that before we do it and add to the confusion 21 22 Hume Thank you for that clarity Mr Chair And in fact I will also go one step 23 further and say let's keep the points to a whole integer We won't go point 24 one two five or anything like that, we'll keep it the lowest possible is one, 25 two, and so on Before we get into the presentations though, what I want 26 to do is direct your attention to the packet that was handed out to you 27 This is the reason why I was late I was finishing up the last minute details 28 on this packet. Each section here and we do have copies for the public as 29 well, each section represents a portion of the Transportation Planning 30 funds either for projects or for our planning operations, for us here as staff 31 And so what I'd like to do very briefly is go through these, hit a couple of 32 high points each because these are projects that are either regular 33 projects that are always in the TIP, for example the funds for our MPO to 34 operate, or they are projects that are carry-over projects from an older 35 TIP They were identified in 2010 of our previous TIP, and so we're 36 bringing them forward So I'm going to go through these briefly 37 First of all, the single, double sided page entitled Planning, these 38 are an estimate from 2010 because we have not received our 39 appropriations yet. 2010 through 2013 of the funds that we expect to get 40 for planning purposes They are to operate for our paycheck as staff for 41 running our operations Okay And these are estimates that are made 42 Once the formula has broken out the portions that each MPO gets through 43 the state-wide formula that we have, we will change these and make them 44 from estimates into actual dollar amounts But we have them as 45 placeholders in our current TIP Are there any questions about the 46 Planning section? 9 1 2 Cadena Any questions? Let's move on 3 4 Hume The next section is entitled Aviation, has the word aviation in the title of it 5 here These are all the projects that are funded through Federal Aviation 6 Administration for the Las Cruces International Airport. They provide us 7 with up to date information with all their projects from 2010 through 2015 8 I'm not going to highlight any of these because these projects actually do 9 not go through the MPO process as for information for those of who are 10 rather new to our process But the Las Cruces International Airport and 11 their management work directly with the State Aviation Board as well as 12 Federal Aviation Administration 13 The third item is Transit. You see it's a two page item Under 14 transit you'll notice that the first page and a half or so are projects that 15 have Federal fiscal year 2009 on them These projects are holdover from 16 the Economic Recovery Bill projects that were proposed to you all and 17 ranked by this Committee in February They have not been taken out of 18 the 2010 TIP yet, because decisions have not been made on which 19 projects will be done My understanding from Mike Bartholomew is that 20 RoadRUNNER Transit will be going before City of Las Cruces City Council 21 on April 20th, and the determination will be made at that point which 22 projects that the Economic Recovery Funding will be applied to And at 23 that time we will know which projects will be obligated in 2009, and which 24 projects may need to be brought forward to seek additional funding for 25 So that's why you'll see about a page and a half of projects for 2009, even 26 though the TIP starts in 2010 They're still acting as placeholders 27 essentially Also, I want to note that the MPO staff is working with Mike 28 Bartholomew to go ahead and project forward funding sources for 29 operation, support equipment and facilities, and also the ride-share 30 programs So we're working with them to make sure that we can project 31 out to at least 2013 what they're funding needs will be Are there any 32 questions on the Transit portion? 33 34 Cadena Questions, comments? We're just moving through tonight. 35 36 Hume Yes The last section that we'll go over is entitled Thoroughfare Mr 37 Chair, in this section you'll notice that the first three projects there are for 38 2009 and again, those projects are holdovers from the Economic 39 Recovery Bill that you all voted on in February They are still in the 2010 40 TIP because the state has obligated the 50% of the Economic Recovery 41 funds that were required within 120 days Because that obligation was 42 met, these remaining projects have up to one year to obligate their 43 projects Now we're working very closely with the local entities and 44 encouraging them to get them ready to build, but in case they're not ready 45 to obligate these projects until October 1st, 2009, we sort of switch over 46 into the next fiscal year So again, these are sort of placeholders until we 10 I get those logistics figured out. The other thing that I want to point out is 2 that if you turn to page starting at the bottom of page two, you'll notice 3 almost two pages of projects that have the Federal fiscal year as TBD 4 These are the remaining projects that were suggested by our member 5 agencies for consideration in the Economic Recovery Bill The likelihood 6 of these projects being selected is very slim We do have them as 7 placeholders here in the proposed 2010 TIP, but at this point in time as 8 you can see on the far right hand side of each item there, the contingency 9 is funding Basically they are unfunded projects Now, the ranking of 10 them we still have in our database, so they're still ranked four through 11 whatever, but our hope as MPO staff is that we can work with your 12 respective staffs to develop TIP projects that we can go ahead and go 13 through the whole TIP process as we will complete this evening And get 14 these ranked as unfunded projects through the TIP process But we didn't 15 want to lose them in our transition, even though they weren't funded by the 16 Economic Recovery Bill The other thing that you'll notice is that this 17 section of the TIP only goes through 2002 We will be coordinating with 18 New Mexico DOT to make sure that there aren't any projects in the 2013 19 year that need to be added to this list as well So if there aren't any 20 questions, Mr Chair let me ask, are there any questions, please? 21 22 Cadena. Questions for staff? Thank you Andy 23 24 Hume So now we're to the part that will probably take a little longer than that 25 would What I'd like to do now Mr Chair is as a reminder let me pull 26 this back up here as a reminder We're going to consider each project one 27 at a time You as the Committee will be able to ask questions and have 28 comments At your discretion Mr Chair, the public can ask questions and 29 comments And then we will move forward through each project and at 30 that point you all will make a little note on a piece of paper where you want 31 to assign your five points We will add that into to the spread sheet which 32 1 brought with us here Yeah, right there I almost doubted that it wasn't 33 there And then we'll tabulate those and we will put those forward as your 34 final ranking projects and we will adopt the 2010 TIP as amended based 35 on the ranking 36 37 Cadena Alright Andy, let me get this clear, you'd like the questions and comments 38 after each presentation? Or do all the presentations? 39 40 Hume Mr Chair I think that it probably would be good to have questions and 41 comments after each presentation, that way they are sort of fresh in mind, 42 we don't have to call people up more than once as far as our presenters to 43 answer those questions 44 45 Cadena I have no issues with that if the Committee doesn't. I just want to let 46 everyone know that I'll be trying to keep everybody on task because it 11 I would be unfair if we go off to a tangent of 30 minutes of questions and 2 comments and we'll never get to the last project. So we're going to have 3 to be concise and be ready to move on to the next project. Also, if 4 everyone can we have a process here so if everyone in here can be 5 patient and give everyone the respect that they deserve for their 6 presentation, I'm sure they'll do the same 7 8 Arzabal For the presentation, it's 10 minutes, on the counter and then you'll 9 regulate as far as the questions? 10 11 Cadena Yes 12 13 Arzabal Okay 14 15 Cadena Of course if you don't need the total 10 minutes we won't require you to 16 use them 17 18 Hume And Mr Chair if I may since we do have a lot of individuals visiting with us 19 today, please encourage everyone to state their name very clearly for the 20 record, not only before they give their presentation, but also for any 21 questions or comments 22 23 Cadena Good point. Well said, and also give whoever you're representing or 24 what project. 25 26 Hume And with that Mr Chair who's first up? I think we'll go with the Town of 27 Mesilla first and we'll be hearing from them on the TIP project for 28 University Avenue 29 30 Krueger- Mr Chair and Committee members, my name is Susan Krueger and I'm 31 the Deputy Clerk for the Town of Mesilla The project is to design and 32 install continuous paved six-foot shoulder bordered by a four-inch white 33 edge strip for bicycle and pedestrian use on both the north and south 34 sides of University Avenue 35 1 just would like to highlight a couple of points and then stand for 36 questions The need to implement Mesilla's complete streets resolution is 37 a distinct part of this project. This complete streets resolution was passed 38 in June 2008, and it is designed to set up a system where transportation 39 improvements to streets are made so that walking, bicycling, transit, and 40 motor vehicle use are all combined together into a safe and efficient 41 transportation system, and this is something that would happen for 42 University Avenue The other justification is the need to design and 43 construct a safe route to school The Town of Mesilla has a safe route to 44 school project at both Mesilla Elementary School and Zia, both of which 45 are located on University Avenue And during an initial meeting at Zia 46 Middle School, the principal, the staff, and the parents that were present at 12 I that meeting expressed significant concern about University Avenue as 2 being a safe route They basically said it wasn't. We have followed 3 AASTO compliance The proposed facility is the simplest type of bicycle/ 4 pedestrian facility in the AASTO Guidelines And I would also like to 5 mention that the project is designed simply to provide safe 6 accommodations for cyclists and pedestrians where none exists now And 7 we have what we have here is a picture of a truck and a car passing 8 each other, and as you can see there is no space on either the truck side 9 or the car side for a cyclist who might want to be cycling on University 10 Avenue So there's no in-road capability for that to happen 11 Finally, I think a very important part of our project is that the 12 Department of Transportation redesigned University Avenue in 1999- 13 2000, and they did this in order to accommodate a turning lane, a third 14 lane They did not go forward with the project, but we have located all of 15 the plans that they completed for that particular 2000 project, which will 16 immensely facilitate the design and planning of this project that's before 17 you this evening Not only does the map indicate right-of-way, all of their 18 maps, but it also indicates ownership of the surrounding parcels I'm 19 willing to stand for questions if there are any 20 21 Cadena So again, I have a question This project is from the lateral east to Main 22 Street, because further west of that there's already sidewalk, is that 23 correct? 24 25 Krueger* But only on one side of the street. So ideally when we design it there 26 would be a paved shoulder with that white edge strip on both sides of 27 University Avenue, and it would go, yes, all the way to Main Street. 28 29 Cadena Alright. 30 31 Krueger, Now there may be some you know shifting around as the design goes 32 forward 33 34 Cadena So even though that would we're going to cross jurisdictions, but that's 35 not an issue here for the MPO, so that would work fine right there 36 37 Krueger* That's correct, because it's a Department of Transportation project. 38 39 Cadena Very good, any other questions or comments on this particular 40 presentation from the Committee here? The public? Come on up 41 42 Zagona My name is Helen Zagona and I'm a bicyclist here and I frequently use 43 University, but I also drive on it at the time when school is in session and 44 in the mornings when there are children on their way to school, and I have 45 to say that it's a very, very dangerous area There is really no room for 46 children to even walk, let alone ride a bicycle there There are places 13 I where I have seen children just sort of walking right on the edge of the 2 pavement, just outside of the traffic lanes So I think that it seems to me 3 that one of the highest priorities ought to be the safety of children going to 4 school And I think that this area is extremely dangerous and should be 5 addressed very soon Thank you 6 7 Cadena Thank you for your comments, anyone else? Go ahead and please start 8 line up there at the podium so we can save time Come on up, anyone 9 that wants to speak on this project just line up and we'll get done 10 11 White My name is Samuel White I heard a comment made about a sidewalk, 12 and a sidewalk won't work for bicycles 13 14 Cadena. No, my only comment was there's an existing sidewalk on a portion of 15 University That's all But I understand what the project goals are now 16 Thank you, sir Yes, sir, please identify yourself for the record 17 18 Holzhausen My name is Theo Holzhausen I live right in this area and this is 19 20 Littlefield Lane Littlefied, Mesilla Elementary For Zia Middle School for the 21 sidewalk for kids who walk. 22 23 Choneska I'm here cause I'm worried about me walking to school every day 24 25 Holzhausen I live in this area and I've been watching the kids walk up and down 26 Every morning and every afternoon I come down here and I see the kids, 27 like the one bicyclist that said, where they have to walk into the road 28 sometime And we were looking at it on the way here just one more time, 29 and there are areas that are not even as wide as this podium, between the 30 white line and the road, and where the kids have to walk. There's one 31 place at the ditch, the pictures don't do it justice and there's another place 32 further down where between the white line and the road, and there's a tree 33 there on the north side of University, that there's not this much space It's 34 not enough room for a child to walk to school, and I have seen children 35 that have had to walk into the road and it's not safe And I'm concerned 36 for you know it won't be done in time for her, but he's coming up and 37 he'll be walking to Zia on that route in a few years 38 39 Cadena Thank you for your comments, we especially appreciate the comments 40 from the students there Who's next? 41 42 Guenther My name is Debra Guenther and I'm a Las Cruces bicyclist and also a 43 staff member at New Mexico State University, and I support any progress 44 the City makes for increasing bike lanes anywhere, but especially on 45 University We have Favia and Garcia Greenhouses that students go 46 back and forth to from the University and also just along the road in 14 I general, I do feel is very unsafe and would really like to see increased 2 space for bicyclists and pedestrians 3 4 Cadena Thank you for your comments 5 6 Witter* My name is Trina Witter And I am here with two hats on, the Mesilla 7 Valley Bicycle Coalition chair I also serve on the Town of Mesilla Safe 8 Routes to School's Committee And as Susan stated the parents at both 9 Zia Middle School and Mesilla Elementary School would very much like for 10 their children to be able to walk and ride to school When we have our 11 walk to school in October day, we have at least you know half the school 12 that's participating and they would do it on a more regular basis if they had 13 a safer facility So I support anything that you can do along University 14 Avenue And I'd also like to point out that its part of the because that is 15 a state road, the New Mexico DOT has a vision that their state roads will 16 be compatible with alternative modes of transportation such as walking 17 and bicycling Thank you 18 19 Cadena Thank you for your comments Committee members, any questions about 20 the presentation or comments briefly? Go ahead, Councilor Thomas 21 22 S Thomas Thank you You said it was the lowest level of AASTO Can you say a 23 little bit more about that? Is that enough? 24 25 Krueger- Yes AASTO has design facilities for very fancy in-lane for example 26 facilities when you have a left hand turn and a right hand turn, but this is 27 six-foot wide paved shoulder with a four-inch wide border separating it 28 from the driving lane, is the simplest AASTO guideline Recalling that this 29 is a semi-rural area 30 31 Cadena That answer your question? 32 33 S Thomas Yes, I just I attended a webinar sometime back about how they were 34 changing the AASTO bicycle requirements, so this is the old this is not 35 the new they haven't put in the new AASTO bicycle requirements yet? 36 37 Krueger- I believe this will remain the simplest guideline they have 38 39 S Thomas Regardless of how they change it. Okay 40 41 Krueger- But if it changes then when we get to a design phase if we do, then it 42 would clearly accommodate any revisions that they made, Councilor 43 Thomas 44 45 S Thomas I don't know where that is, but maybe Andy does, but it was about six 46 months to a year ago they had a draft. 15 1 2 Cadena Andy, can you answer that? 3 4 Hume Yes, Mr Chair, Councilor Thomas, the we're expecting the next bicycle 5 guidelines about the end of this year, beginning of next year So we're 6 expecting (inaudible) 7 8 Cadena I would remind everyone that Susan's correct, that during the design 9 phase all of those issues can be resolved Anyone else? Commissioner 10 Benavidez. 11 12 Benavidez Yes I just want to make a comment that in a previous meeting 13 Commissioner Perez also made has a concern about the University not 14 having sidewalks and bike paths I know she expressed the concern 15 because I think her son goes to Zia So I just wanted to let everyone know 16 that. She's also concerned and I'm not speaking on her behalf, I'm just 17 wanting to let the public know that she did express a big concern about 18 this problem Thank you 19 20 Cadena. Thank you Commissioner Trustee Bernal 21 22 Bernal Yes, I'd like to make a little on behalf because I'm part of the Town of 23 Mesilla, but University has always been a big, big concern They've been 24 able to improve 28, but University, comes from Mesilla Elementary all the 25 way to Zia Middle School which they improved the drop off for the children 26 in the back and the side That broke down a lot of the safety, but to the 27 board it's if you were to see this on a daily basis, it's a big, big concern 28 And I can't know how to express for the board to see the safety behind it 29 because I know you do, but it is a big concern And that area, it's 30 extremely, extremely dangerous for our children If we'd be able to go 31 forward with this, I'm pretty sure a lot of the people in that community 32 would really appreciate it, but like I said, I'm not trying to convince the 33 board, but it is a big, big safety issue for our children Thank you 34 35 Cadena Thank you We'll go ahead and move on to the next presentation Who's 36 next? 37 38 Krueger- Thank you very much for your consideration 39 40 Cadena Thank you Andy if you'll just randomly call someone up there 41 42 Hume Mr Chair, if it suites the Board, probably what we'll do is just go ahead 43 and continue on with the Calle de Norte presentation 44 45 Cadena That'll work fine, if no one objects? 46 16 I Lujan Mayor Cadena and Board, Calle de Norte is a reconstruction of a two lane 2 roadway design and construction of bicycle and pedestrian facility on Calle 3 de Norte 4 5 Cadena I'm sorry Can you introduce yourself for the recorder? 6 7 Lujan Debbie Lujan, public works director for the Town of Mesilla This project 8 consists of a reconstruction of a two lane roadway for improvement of 9 drainage, and design and construction of a bicycle and pedestrian facility 10 on Calle de Norte Since the the last construction was two years ago 11 and this is putting the signal light here on Highway 28, New Mexico 28 and 12 Calle de Norte And Calle de Norte was chip sealed five years ago Since 13 this project does not involve additional or subtracting of driving lanes, we 14 do not anticipate that at the ratio of change for the annual daily traffic 15 volume will change of 5,864, and this is based on the 2007 data Right 16 now this project does not include taking of right-of-way nor moving utility 17 poles, or moving EBID lateral headwalls This project will be for 18 justification it's also for RoadRUNNER transit bus stop on 28 The bus is 19 equipped with a bicycle rack enabling to connect between transit and 20 bicycle travel It's a need to enhance recreational and intercity bicycle and 21 pedestrian travel The recently opened Mesilla Valley Bosque State Park 22 to the La Llorona Park, which in turn connects New Mexico Bike route 23 seven and Picacho Avenue and the City of Las Cruces This picture here 24 is La Llorona and here we're approaching Calle de Norte bridge which 25 connects to the Mesilla Bosque Park. Also, as Ms Krueger mentioned, 26 we are the proposed facility is simply type of the bicycle facility 27 identified and AASTO guidelines also, like she said, you know once we go 28 into the design phase We also have a lot of flooding on Calle de Norte 29 This picture is just taken this last rain falls that we had which just was a 30 little bit of rain that we accumulated and you can see easily how it floods 31 Right now we are working with New Mexico DOT They have come in to 32 do a short just for temporary, they've come in and did a bar ditch and 33 they're helping us (inaudible) some of this flooding that occurs on Calle de 34 Norte Here's some more flooding that has occurred, and where I'm 35 talking about it's this right in here, DOT came in recently and put a bar 36 ditch for us in here which has helped take off some of the water off our 37 roadway The estimated length is 1 8 miles and estimated project cost is 38 $2 5 million for this project. I stand for any questions 39 40 Cadena Alright, Committee members, questions or comments? Public? Alright, 41 very good, I would encourage all the presenters to stay to the end of the 42 presentations, there may be questions or comments that come up later 43 44 Hume Mr Chair, members of the Committee, this is Andy, I'm bringing up a map 45 here I neglected to bring this up before hand This is a map showing 46 where the distribution of the TIP projects It's a little let me see if I can 17 I zoom in here just a little bit here As you can see here by the map on the 2 screen, the distribution of the projects comes from all the way in the north 3 near the Village of Dona Ana, and the other project is down here along 4 Berino Road which is to the south and 5 6 Cadena That one over there seems clearer 7 8 Hume This one over here seems clearer Okay So here's I just want to show 9 the distribution of the projects, just sort of give the Committee an overall 10 sense A lot of the projects are sort of concentrated down here in the 11 southern half of the Las Cruces area including the areas of NMSU, 12 Mesilla, and this is the area where the new high school is to be located, 13 and then there also is Fairacres Road and Calle de Norte So I just 14 wanted to show that to you I didn't show that to you before and 1 15 apologize We'll keep that map up as well 16 One comment Mr Chair that I want to make on Calle de Norte 17 before we move on to the next presenters, is that the project for Calle de 18 Norte that was presented by the Town of Mesilla extends here from the 19 intersection of New Mexico 28, up to the Calle de Norte bridge It does 20 not include the bridge across the river, and it does not go north up 21 Fairacres Road to include areas that are included within the Town of 22 Mesilla The reason why that is an issue is because a project that you'll 23 hear about in a little bit, which is Fairacres Road extends from Picacho 24 down to about Tres Sendas So potentially there is a gap between these 25 two projects from right about here which is about the Tres Sendas area all 26 the way over just off the map here to where Calle de Norte comes to 27 the river I want to present that to you for your consideration because it 28 may be important for us to either help one entity or the other to extend 29 their project which may involve which will involve additional costs, but 30 the importance of this not to have a really nice brand new shiny project on 31 either end and leave out this important gap, particularly the bridge, and 32 also, particularly with the Bosque Park located right off of that area Also, 33 there is a very interesting intersection here to navigate here with Mesilla 34 Hills So, I wanted to point that out to you all We did receive an e-mail 35 from a citizen this afternoon We forwarded it on to you all this afternoon, 36 and so we wanted to bring that up for the record at this meeting Staff is 37 not prepared at this time to necessarily make any suggestions or ask any 38 of the entities to change their projects, but with suggestion from you all, 39 we will work with them to do that. So, we'll go through we'll let the 40 presentations continue, but keep that in mind please 41 42 Cadena Thank you 43 44 Hume Mr Chair, at this time what we'd like to do is shift gears over to the Las 45 Cruces Public School's presentations 46 18 I Cadena Very good Come on up 2 3 Hume Oh, okay Apparently, the County has asked to go next. Are there 4 objections from any of the ? We'll go ahead and take a look at the 5 projects from the County and Andrew Guerra will be handling those, and 6 I'll let you open up your presentations because I'm not sure where they're 7 at. 8 9 Guerra Mr Chairman, fellow Committee members, thank you My name is 10 Andrew Guerra, Bohannan Huston And I would like to discuss with you 11 some improvements done to Fairacres Road Again, our lead agency and 12 sponsor on this project will be Dona Ana County with some of the contact 13 information Again, we want to help facilitate future growth throughout Las 14 Cruces, Dona Ana County, in accordance with the MPO Major 15 Thoroughfare Plan and Policies As pointed out earlier, the project area of 16 Fairacres Road is on the west side, again coming off of Picacho Avenue, 17 running south until we hit the 90 degree just before 1-10 This corridor 18 continues underneath the bridge and this project is intended to end, at this 19 time, at Mesilla Hills Drive But as pointed out, there is that short section 20 between a different project and this one that could definitely be taken into 21 consideration 22 An overall view, an aerial view of this, again Picacho Hills to your 23 left here or US 70, Fairacres Road heading south, again under 1-10 24 through this bridge, and again heading south towards the river there And 25 another cut section of the same aerial photo basically We see that it ties 26 in Mesilla Hills Drive just to the bottom right corner of the page there Now 27 the existing conditions on this, again it's a pavement section, only 20-feet 28 wide Both are collector and minor arterial No curb and gutter, and no 29 apparent paved shoulders There are several utility conflicts, overhead 30 electric poles and pedestals that would need to be adjusted Some of the 31 distresses on this pavement would include the, you know the typical edge 32 cracking, alligator cracking, and longitudinal cracking on this pavement. 33 Some photos of the roadway section Again, we have several, probably 34 25-30 feet, to the left there you've got the drain, and again farm field to the 35 east. 36 Again, this signifies a two-lane road, one way with the double stripe 37 down the center This approach here at the curb is just before the 1-10 38 bridge It somewhat widens here at this small section, again only a two- 39 lane road, no apparent passing capabilities Now proposed improvements 40 on this, there's been a history on an alignment study proposing a 40-foot 41 roadway cross section in lieu of a minor arterial or a typical collector 42 section This would include two 11-foot driving lanes, one 12-foot 43 continuous left turn lane, two five-foot paved shoulders to accommodate 44 pedestrian and bicyclists, and a realignment to meet minimum standards, 45 centerline standards and radius at that bridge crossing Typical schematic 46 that could potentially be used for this roadway, again this continuous left 19 I turn lane, two 11-foot driving lanes, and a five-foot pedestrian/bike lane on 2 either side, both directions Again, approximate length of this roadway 3 corridor is about 3 miles Cost is about $3 million Again, this includes a 4 three-inch asphalt section, over eight-inches of aggregate base course 5 and 12-inch subgrade prep Again, no property acquisition or 6 environmental mitigation is included 7 Impacts based on this project, well again, it provides additional trip 8 modes such as biking, walking, and potential transit accommodations 9 Proposed width provides for a left turn lane, passing movements would be 10 safer, potentially eliminate a substandard curve at 1-10 crossing Provides 11 for breakdown lane and shoulder for motor vehicles, and any of the 12 existing transportation modes are not necessarily reduced by 13 implementing these improvements here along Fairacres Road, any 14 questions, comments? Thank you 15 16 Cadena You stated that it doesn't include right-of-way or property acquisitions, is it 17 going to require it? 18 19 Guerra For the proposed section, it may We have again EBID drains off to the 20 west and farm land and everything immediately to the east. 21 22 Cadena So then that cost would have to be increased at some point. 23 24 Guerra. Yes, sir 25 26 Cadena Okay Commissioner Benavidez. 27 28 Benavidez. Mr Guerra, typically how many people utilize this road? 29 30 Guerra Based on information that we got from two sources, again from quoting 31 the City I believe there was about an average annual daily traffic of 1,380 32 some vehicles It's essentially I'm sorry 33 34 Benavidez. I'm sorry Is it a bus route? 35 36 Guerra I believe so It's a one way in, basically one way out to a lot of the 37 community out there 38 39 Benavidez. And do you see students or children walking to and from school on this 40 road? 41 42 Guerra I haven't seen ma'am, but like I said that does experience I'm sure a lot of 43 the traffic especially during peak hours Again, it's a one way in through 44 the community in there and out, depending whether you use Picacho or 45 Calle de Norte 46 20 I Benavidez. Thank you 2 3 Cadena. Other comments? 4 5 Bernal Mr Chair 6 7 Cadena. Yes, Trustee Bernal 8 9 Bernal I'd just like to add a little bit to the question of what Ms Benavidez had 10 asked I know that it would end right there in Mesilla Hills, but from my 11 understanding there is a big subdivision that's going on the west side, 12 correct me if I'm wrong Mr Chair, but there are 400 units that are going to 13 be coming in on the west side on the top of the hill, the mesa So this is a 14 big concern that we need to look at the future as the impact that it's going 15 to make on Fairacres Road Right now it will not hold the impact if it were 16 to happen as those 400 units were to come up, so it is a big concern for 17 the future that we need to look at. 18 19 Cadena FYI, that particular subdivision has been withdrawn, however, the land is 20 up for sale and it's zoned to allow for a higher density 21 22 Arzabal That's what I was going to mention to you I have no question 23 24 Cadena Okay And I think your point's well taken that someone mentioned it it 25 is a dead end so what happens is that that road is being used from 26 everybody in the Fairacres area to go to the University or to go to Las 27 Cruces because there is no other access except Fairacres Road and Calle 28 de Norte to come through town Alright, any other questions Board, 29 Committee members, public? Anyone in the public, questions or 30 comments? Come on up 31 32 Krueger* Again, Susan Krueger from the Town of Mesilla. Mr Chair and Committee 33 members, the gap, of course, has been addressed at prior committee 34 meetings and the Town of Mesilla will sit down with the County to look at 35 the gap The bridge of course is a question and a half, simply because as 36 1 understand the bridge, it's structurally sound, but it's identified as being 37 geometrically deficient because it does not have a breakdown lane If it 38 were to have a breakdown lane then of course you would have a path for 39 bicycles and pedestrians So, what we talked about was there is a very 40 narrow space that perhaps those who use that bike path or pedestrian 41 path all the way along, they simply those who were biking would have 42 to get off their bikes and walk them across the bridge, which is not a huge 43 thing But the Town will sit down with the County and take a look at the 44 gap 45 21 I Cadena I agree with MPO staff and Town of Mesilla staff that we need to address 2 that gap whether it's through the Norte project or the Fairacres project. As 3 far as the bridge, as you said that's a different issue and there's I believe 4 seven agencies involved from EBID to the International Boundary 5 Commission, and that needs to be addressed as well, but through a 6 different process Thank you Yes 7 8 Gallagher- Good evening Mr Chair, Committee members Mike Gallagher, New 9 Mexico DOT I did want to mention, generally speaking that Fairacres 10 Road has a classification as being a minor rural collector And with that 11 classification there maybe restrictions on what kind of Federal funding 12 may be available for improvements to that road I just wanted to mention 13 that for your consideration 14 15 Cadena Thank you Appreciate that information Yes 16 17 Conway* Good evening My name is Jean Conway I'm with the Mesilla Valley Bike 18 Coalition and also with the Royals Cycling Group, and I'd like to say that 19 that route is a very popular bicycling route and the condition of the road 20 there is pretty bad for cyclists It causes us to move more out into the 21 center of the lane so any improvements for cyclists would make it a much 22 safer place to ride Thank you 23 24 Cadena Thank you, alright, any other comments, questions? If not we'll go ahead 25 and move onto does the County have other projects? If you'll come up 26 and 27 28 Guerra Mr Chairman, members of the Committee Thank you again Again, My 29 name is Andrew Guerra with Bohannan Huston I'd like to present now 30 improvements to another roadway, Berino Road Again this is south of the 31 City of Las Cruces, the southernmost portion, I guess that you'll be 32 hearing tonight. Berino Road again it runs perpendicular, runs west, 33 perpendicular from Stern Drive or 1-10 to the west. Again, our lead agency 34 on this and sponsor is again Dona Ana County Again, we want to comply 35 with MPO Thoroughfare Plan and Policies Real quick, an aerial photo of 36 the area, you've got 1-10 and Stern Drive or Frontage Road running on the 37 west side here I'm sorry the east side Ties in and runs perpendicular 38 to the west. Now Berino Road runs has an intersection at Vistoso Loop 39 and this will be meaningful here as you hear the presentation later on 40 Crosses two EBID drains and ties into Highway 478 This is what was 41 proposed the improvements are to be within this corridor; the existing 42 conditions on this, its 24-feet wide, 12-foot driving lane The shoulders are 43 unpaved, about 20-feet wide approximately There is a storm drain inlets 44 located along the alignment of the shoulder near joint intersections There 45 is very limited pedestrian and bicycle accommodations due to the 46 surfacing of the shoulders 22 I This is predominantly near the Stern Drive exit onto Berino Road 2 And this is about 300-400 feet west along Berino Road, basically the 3 shoulders disappear and you basically have just a 12-foot driving lane with 4 the center line stripe Here's the photo of one of several storm drain inlets 5 located at one of the intersections through that corridor Now the 6 proposed improvements again, it's a reconstruct of the existing alignment 7 with a new pavement profile in accordance with Dona Ana County 8 standards Again this roadway will basically see two different roadway 9 profiles, from Stern Drive to Vistoso Loop, basically you'd have two 11-foot 10 driving lanes with a four-foot bike lane accommodations, one center 11- 11 foot continuous left turn lane, standard curb and gutter to help mitigate the 12 drainage on that road, four-foot sidewalks in each direction for pedestrian 13 accommodations As you look further west from Vistoso Loop to New 14 Mexico 478, the three lanes would now be reduced to a two lane with 12- 15 foot driving lanes, six-foot paved shoulders for breakdown 16 accommodations for again motor vehicles And again drainage swells and 17 such would be there to help accommodate any roadway runoff in that 18 corridor And here are two typical sections, one from Stern Drive to 19 Vistoso Loop, that's essentially half of the roadway length there, and the 20 one to the bottom there would be Vistoso Loop to 478 21 This roadway is approximately 1 5 miles, at least within this 22 corridor The opinion of cost on this is about $2 7 million Again, its two 23 roadway sections, one with curb and gutter, and one without curb and 24 gutter Two inches of asphalt over six inches of base course, and 12- 25 inches of subgrade prep Now this 2 7 also includes the potential 26 improvements to the exiting drainage structures that we have in, within 27 EBID right-of-way And again it excludes any property acquisition or 28 environmental mitigation 29 Impacts, based on this project it provides for additional trip modes 30 such as biking and walking Proposed curb and gutter section provides for 31 left turn movements, safety improves passing capabilities while 32 accommodating for bicyclist and pedestrians, and also help facilitate 33 drainage Again, proposed sections also provides for breakdown lane and 34 shoulders for motor vehicles And again transportation modes are not 35 reduced by implementing these improvements 36 37 Cadena Maybe the County can answer this if you can't, about four or five years 38 ago that road was torn up, was that for waste water lines or what was 39 going on there? 40 41 Corneles Mr Chair, Committee members, Henry Corneles with Dona Ana County 42 engineering There was some sewer installation about that time, I think 43 that's what you're referring to, and sanitary sewers were installed and if 1 44 can just continue with some comments that I was going to make? 45 46 Cadena Sure 23 1 2 Corneles One of the reasons well the main reason we asked funding for this 3 project is that we have improved this village or Colonia We're trying to 4 continue to improve the quality of life down there and they do have 5 sanitary sewer and water now And we would like to continue 6 improvements Over the last year and half we've installed about $1 5 7 million of storm sewers And these were designed to reduce flooding for 8 this area which is quite extensive during bad storms, so to finish off the 9 project we'd like to reconstruct the road which is in fairly poor condition, 10 and it does have a lot of truck traffic because there are some farms and 11 other things there that create a lot of truck traffic. That's why we're 12 suggesting sidewalks as well and possibly lighting 13 14 Cadena Alright. Thank you Committee? Public? Andy, you're not in the public 15 16 Hume Thank you Mr Chair, members of the Committee I want to point out a 17 couple of special issues with Berino Road The first is and I'll go back 18 to the map that Andrew had here If you'll notice this sort of brown line 19 coming across here sort of bumps up around the unincorporated area of 20 the Village of Berino To the south of this is EI Paso MPO and as Tom 21 noted we have a representative here this evening, Mr Dominguez. That's 22 issue number one We need to resolve that issue because currently this 23 road lies in two MPOs For this project to move forward, we would need to 24 go through a very rigorous transportation conformity study that is required 25 of the EI Paso MPO because they are a transportation management area 26 and we are not. So we are working with them, in fact we have a 27 conference call set up between our MPO, EI Paso MPO, DOT, and Dona 28 Ana County to resolve that issue for starters The second is an issue that 29 Mr Gallagher brought up from the DOT about the current classification of 30 that roadway That will be another issue that we need to discuss And 1 31 just wanted to bring it to the Committee's attention that we are resolving 32 those issues 33 34 Cadena Very good And Mr Dominguez, that's it may be a rigorous procedure, 35 but it's something that can be accomplished I'm sure, if needed 36 37 Dominguez- Ricardo Dominguez from the EI Paso Metropolitan Planning Organization, 38 Mr Chair The estimations for those issues can be overcome We are 39 working with all the staff that Andy mentioned We do see daylight and we 40 will get them resolved 41 42 Cadena Alright, just wanted to make sure, appreciate it. 43 44 Hume Yeah, and Mr Chair just for the record what we're doing is actually looking 45 at just smoothing that transition out and making sure that the entire road of 46 Benno is in the Las Cruces MPO 24 1 2 Cadena Yeah, we had talked about it at previous meeting 3 4 Hume That's correct sir 5 6 Cadena It's a good idea We always have these issues when there are borders 7 that are put up Alright, let's go ahead and if we're ready, move onto 1 8 think there's one more County project? 9 10 Hume Yes, Mr Chair, the project for the intersection of Camino Real and Dona I 1 Ana School Road 12 13 Guerra Mr Chairman, fellow Committee members Again, my name is Andrew 14 Guerra and I'd like to discuss with you some improvements that we 15 propose for EI Camino Real and Dona Ana School Road intersection 16 This area is located to the north side of City limits Again, it's off of 1-25 off 17 of Thorpe Road and I'm sure several of us has kind of driven through this 18 intersection, it's got a very awkward angle and turn to it; again in Dona 19 Ana County we (inaudible) sponsor with the contact information provided 20 Again, we want to help facilitate future growth in accordance with MPO 21 plans and policies Again, the intersection here you can see is Camino 22 Real, it comes off of Thorpe Road and comes in at an angle and continues 23 south And we've got Dona Ana School Road essentially running straight 24 pretty much in an east/west direction We've got yielding right turn lanes 25 at several locations But it still you know seems to be insufficient. The 26 existing conditions, it's a channelized four lane intersection Traffic 27 movements at this intersection may be impaired due to potential 28 substandard elements such as turning radiuses, the approach, 29 intersection angle, and inefficient use of right turn lanes EI Camino Real 30 is a major arterial, essentially has a two way stop with an intermediate 31 stop through movement, essentially you can see that here on the right 32 side of the screen It's a stop basically at the intersection before 33 proceeding south Two way yield right turn movement, two lane approach 34 pavement width of about 24-feet, and no impervious shoulder 35 accommodations Now Dona Ana School Road running east/west 36 direction, minor arterial, basically it's a no stop intersection It's a two way 37 yield right turn movement with 24-feet of paved road Both roads are 38 double striped, again no impervious shoulder or auxiliary lane 39 accommodations 40 A picture of the intersection here, Dona Ana School Road basically 41 coming from the top side of the screen there and running into your left. 42 Again, there's a no stop movement. You do have some right turn yield 43 capabilities through here, but again it's a very sharp turn and angle there 44 Camino Real coming from the bottom of the page, you've got a stop, as 45 you pass the intersection you have another stop at the island here before 46 proceeding south And again you do have right turn capabilities Another 25 I angle on that, again no shoulder accommodations off to the side for any 2 additional modes of traffic. Again on Dona Ana School Road same 3 instance, no additional pavement on the shoulders 4 So the proposed improvements again will be to perform a TIA to 5 determine the extent of these improvements in accordance with AASTO 6 standards and Dona Ana County standards This may include pavement 7 widening, roadway centerline realignment, intersection reconfiguration, 8 evaluate the need for signalization, island rearrangement, and additional 9 striping and signage to accommodate pedestrian and bike traffic 10 Potential geometry at this intersection, again it's an intersection, two lanes, 11 you've got the right turn capabilities with more storage, more deceleration 12 lane accommodations, potentially again reduced speed limit at the 13 approach, and try to realign this intersection as best we can Again, the 14 cost is approximately $900,000 This assumes three-inches of asphalt 15 over six inch base and 12 inch subgrade prep Again, it excludes property 16 acquisition and environmental mitigation This project can potentially 17 improve traffic movements across this intersection by potentially realigning 18 or rearrangement of these islands Proposed roadway widening or use of 19 auxiliary lane can provide for more efficient right turn movements, 20 potential signalization at this intersection can improve traffic movement 21 during peak hours Additional striping can help promote accommodations 22 for pedestrians and bicyclists Again, transportation modes are not being 23 reduced by implementing any of these improvements whatsoever 24 25 Cadena Questions or comments? 26 27 Benavidez. Mr Chair 28 29 Cadena. Yes 30 31 Benavidez I have driven through that intersection and it's very confusing I nearly had 32 a car accident there once If you're not paying attention you can easily, 33 easily get into an accident. Have you had other traffic accidents in that 34 area? 35 36 Guerra I believe there have been several reported accidents at that intersection 37 You've got you know I mean an elementary school, Dona Ana Elementary 38 School right there close by, so it does experience a lot of that volume 39 probably during the early peak hours and potentially late peak hours 40 41 Benavidez: And I have seen, me myself going through there, I have seen people 42 confused as well and they either do not stop at the second stop sign and 43 you always have to watch for other people, so yeah it is very dangerous, 44 especially when the buses are going to and from or the parents taking 45 their kids to school, because there's a real close school by there So I just 46 wanted to make that point. Thank you 26 1 2 Cadena Thank you Commissioner Anyone else? The Committee or the public? 3 Come on up 4 5 White Samuel White I live in Mirasol which just east of that intersection And 6 it's a nightmare I cringe every time I take a bicycle through there I've got 7 lights on and reflective stuff and everything else, and still it's scary I was 8 pulled over by a Sheriff one night who was confused about the 9 intersection He started to cite me for running a stop sign, when indeed it 10 was a yield sign And I had to explain that to him And it was fine, but it's 11 a bad intersection 12 13 Cadena Appreciate your comments, point well taken Okay, we got you And the 14 County can speak of course 15 16 Corneles Henry Corneles County engineering When I started driving around the 17 County looking for candidates of intersections and roadways to improve, 18 this one jumped out at me like a sore thumb and this is kind of my baby 1 19 guess I was the one who brought this fourth and pushing for it. I'm glad 20 to hear that other people agree with me Perhaps it's because I'm 21 relatively new to the area, when I drove through here I found it very 22 confusing and thought it could use some improvements One of the 23 and just for an aside information, we have discussed the possibility of 24 doing a roundabout at this intersection instead of realigning it into a 25 regular (inaudible) So that is a possibility And of course we would work 26 if funded, we would work closely with the City and others and the 27 school and other interested parties 28 29 Cadena Is that what you did in Anthony? Was that a roundabout? 30 31 Corneles We didn't do that, the state did that. 32 33 Cadena Oh, the state did But do you have any comments does you or the 34 state have any comments as to how it's working? 35 36 Corneles I've heard comments from both directions 37 38 Cadena Does the state? 39 40 Corneles Of course ours would work great. 41 42 Cadena Yours would work. 43 44 Gallagher- Mr Chair, Committee members Mike Gallagher, New Mexico DOT With 45 the roundabout we experienced at first you know it was kind of a learning 46 curve for folks when they first experienced the roundabout. There was 27 I some time to learn how you know to properly turn, or how to properly 2 access from 460 to 478, or from 478 to 460 on the roundabout. But since 3 then we've heard, at least I've heard positive remarks that the traffic time 4 has been there's less of a traffic wait there at the intersection Traffic 5 has moved more smoothly 6 7 Cadena So you don't have anybody getting in that circle and just continually going 8 around and around? 9 10 Gallagher- Well if we have, no one had yet admitted that. 11 12 Jones Mesillero cito 13 14 Cadena We don't get that far out. 15 16 Gallagher- We don't get that far out. I don't know if (Inaudible) or Mr Dominguez 17 might have some more comments 18 19 Dominguez Ricardo Dominguez from the EI Paso MPO We also have heard 20 comments back and forth and it is indicative of most new turning 21 roundabouts in any area You're confused but once people know how to 22 go through there, traffic flows very smoothly It's been working so well that 23 we have nominated working with the district to put some landscaping in 24 that area including along the highway; it's being used pretty good 25 26 Cadena. Alright. I apologize for changing the topic Let's go on 27 28 Jones Mr Chairman, if I may 29 30 Gallagher- If the Committee doesn't like the idea then we won't do it. Whichever way 31 you'd rather vote, well do it that way 32 33 Jones If I may, Mr Chairman 34 35 Cadena Yes 36 37 Jones All kidding aside, you're starting to see more of those What little travel 1 38 do, I travel up on Colorado periodically and in some of those communities 39 where it looks like there's more newer development, that seems like you 40 see roundabouts more frequently It's an old concept that apparently is 41 coming back. From my amateurs observation 42 43 Cadena Thank you Councilor Alright, the County, what else do we have? We 44 done? Thank you for your presentation Las Cruces Public Schools, are 45 you prepared to go? Just remember, whoever's last, we just going to right 46 up front give one point dust since you've been patient. 28 1 2 Hume Mr Chair, I believe Jared Lee is prepared to make presentation on behalf 3 of the Las Cruces Public School projects 4 5 Cadena Alright, let's do it. 6 7 Lee Mr Chair, Committee members, my name is Jared Lee with Bohannan 8 Huston, representing Las Cruces Public Schools I'm going to go over a 9 couple of projects for you guys and give you some background information 10 that will apply to all three First one we're doing is Dripping Springs Road 11 And the reason that we're here is mainly to facilitate future growth in 12 accordance with the MPO planning, but also to accommodate the 13 construction of the new fourth high school that's going to be located at the 14 intersection of Dripping Springs and what would be Sonoma Ranch 15 Boulevard This is Dripping Springs to the south and Sonoma Ranch 16 Boulevard to the east. Here's the school site A Mountain is right here I- 17 25, US 70 as a reference This is again the MPO Major Thoroughfare 18 Plan 19 Again, I'm going to start with the Dripping Springs Road Right now 20 this is the high school site up in this top corner here and Dripping Springs 21 Road is the extension of University Avenue with the existing gravel pit 22 here, and this is the extension of Sonoma Ranch Boulevard Right now 23 this would be the only access to this site The public schools have 24 committed to constructing Sonoma Ranch Boulevard from Dripping 25 Springs to the north boundary of their site to provide access to this site 26 Right now that is the only means to access it. So with that, here's a 27 school site plan I'll just give you guys a little idea of what we're 28 proposing This would be Sonoma Ranch Boulevard here Some 29 background information 30 Dripping Springs Road currently again is an extension of University 31 Avenue and it transitions at Telshor Boulevard To the west of Telshor it's 32 four lanes, and from there it transitions down to 130-foot right-of-way down 33 to 65-foot right-of-way, based on the MPO's classification it is a major 34 arterial So within the City limits if I can go to the aerial here, within the 35 City limits which would be this portion of Dripping Springs to approximately 36 here, it's a little bit wider at this section, includes approximately two 15-foot 37 driving lanes with centerline stripe And the picture in the background 38 here is what you're seeing looking from Telshor towards the east. Again, it 39 transitions from four lanes down to two somewhat wide lanes with bike 40 lanes on each side and curb and gutter And then from there pass the 41 City limits it even transitions down to two 12-foot driving lanes, again with 42 no median, the bike lanes do continue, no curb and gutter Here's an 43 aerial of that portion, approximately again this would be Sonoma Ranch 44 and the school site Here are some more aerials again These pictures 45 will progress towards the east. This one is looking from Telshor Boulevard 46 at the transition and as you move along there's the residential subdivision 29 I on the side Again, you can see bike lanes on both sides, curb and gutter, 2 street lighting, and the curb and gutter on the south side has went away 3 You go a little further there is room here for left turn lanes into these 4 subdivisions as needed This is the bridge that was constructed by the 5 County fairly recently 6 7 Cadena So where about does it become the County? 8 9 Lee Right about here 10 11 Cadena Okay 12 13 Lee Again, probably again this is the subdivision is approximately the end of 14 this so as you again progress east past this subdivision and this is about 15 that spot, where the bridge is That's approximately the County line 16 17 Cadena Alright, very good 18 19 Lee Again, progressing to the east. This is actually looking west, a little further 20 east at the intersection of Sonoma and Dripping Springs You can see 21 again this is two lanes The bike lane you can see a biker actually coming 22 up and this is him continuing on around the curve of A Mountain You can 23 see that it's fairly narrow section through there So the proposed 24 improvements would include expanding the current section to the full 25 major arterial roadway which is essentially a continuation of what is west 26 of Telshor Boulevard In the background here again you can see four full 27 lanes, median, bike lanes, sidewalk, curb and gutter, street light. This is 28 the section that we did use for this As part of the school project we are 29 proposing, again the County line ends at that subdivision, but as part of 30 the school's project we are in talks with annexing into the City up to 31 Sonoma Ranch It's not done yet but so for the purposes of this we did 32 assume City standards for all our cost estimates So this here again is the 33 section for a major arterial based on City Design Standards And again 34 you can see four 12-foot driving lines, a 39-foot median which would 35 accommodate left turns as well as bike lanes on both sides, six-foot wide, 36 curb and gutter, sidewalk, street lighting And again here's another, 37 clearer picture of University west of Telshor what we would be proposing 38 So the roadway improvements, the length is approximately 2 miles 39 from Telshor to just past Sonoma Ranch Boulevard before that curve at A 40 Mountain And again for a full major arterial section we assumed a 41 pavement section, no property acquisition or environmental mitigation, and 42 we didn't include any drainage structures in there The bridge that the 43 County recently built is about 60+ feet wide which would accommodate 44 four lanes of traffic, bike lanes, but with no median, so that would 45 transition down So there is a potential that that might want to get 30 I widened, but we didn't include it with this estimate So you have a total of 2 $7 million Questions 3 4 Jones Mr Chairman 5 6 Cadena Yes, sir 7 8 Jones Thank you Would you elaborate a little bit on the widening of the bridge? 9 1 mean would it have to be completely redone, or can it be just added on 10 to? I mean how challenging would that be when it comes about, or if it 11 does? 12 13 Lee Anything's possible I assume That was done with a contact product. It's 14 a precast project, and I imagine they could just add on the same section to 15 either side to widen it as much as needed I think the only one of the 16 things is on the north side there, the grade is relatively close with a drop 17 structure that would have to be widened as well There would be some 18 challenges, but I think it could be done 19 20 Jones But in your view would there be a cheaper solution than a complete 21 replacement, remodeling of the whole thing? 22 23 Lee I don't think it would be a complete replacement again I think what's there 24 could stay So I think it would just be an extension 25 26 Jones Thank you 27 28 Cadena I would hope not, because they just completed that bridge 29 30 Jones Mr Chairman, that's exactly my thought and how short sighted, but you 31 know it is precast, those devices I'm not an engineer I would hope they 32 could add another, I know there would be a lot of work and things, 1 33 wouldn't kid myself, but it seems like from a modular standpoint it could be 34 done and cheaper cost than having to rip the whole thing out and redoing 35 it. 36 37 Lee I agree 38 39 Cadena Councilor Thomas 40 41 S Thomas Thank you Mr Chair You said it doesn't include any right-of-way 42 acquisition So given that at some points that road's very narrow, is it 43 even possible to make it wider like around the curve? And what are we 44 looking at in terms of having to acquire more property in order to make it 45 the four lanes 46 31 I Lee I believe that the right-of-way has been dedicated through the City of the 2 full width I'm not sure about that. But I believe that is the case to the 3 south through the City portion is 4 5 S Thomas So through the City portion we're okay The right-of-way's already been 6 dedicated 7 8 Lee And then from there I believe its 65-foot after that and so it would need to 9 be right-of-way would need to be acquired for the rest of that. I think a 10 lot of the land is NMSU's through there, so I think that could be achieved 11 as well 12 13 S Thomas NMSU and some EBID maybe lands 14 15 Lee Right. 16 17 S Thomas Okay 18 19 Cadena. Alright. This Committee's quite familiar with that project because we've 20 been in communication with the school Attended a few we've had a 21 couple of joint meetings with them Is there anyone else on the 22 Committee? 23 24 Lee I have just one more brief slide, just the proposed impacts I think they're 25 pretty obvious, improved traffic flow You add additional lanes so you 26 reduce the volume per lane We would also probably propose reduced 27 speed limits through there, especially considering that the school will 28 serve as an access or the road will serve as an access to the school All 29 this together will potentially reduce the accident rates and also provide 30 some safer trips/modes for biking, walking, and transit. 31 32 Cadena Appreciate that. Any comments or questions from the public? Yes, come 33 on up Anybody and everybody who has any comment. 34 35 Barkley- My name is Howard Barkley I use that Dripping Springs bike path very 36 regularly Anytime I don't feel like fighting my way across Las Cruces to 37 get over to the Mesilla area, why I'll ride on Dripping Springs And I'll be 38 honest, I'm scared to death when you put in a major construction road and 39 then a high school with one access and all the additional traffic and so far 40 to my knowledge there are no serious plans on how you're going to route 41 bicycles and keep everybody safe, because you're creating a very big 42 dangerous intersection in my mind I definitely want to keep the bike 43 paths because I'm a great believer in bike paths There should be more, 44 not less But this is a real concern to me that you know you've got a plan 45 for that intersection other than a plan for a nice wide road going down 46 What do you do when you've got gravel trucks and then school buses, 32 I high school students and all those going in and out of that road? That's 2 my concern 3 4 Cadena Does staff or the presenter have any response? 5 6 Lee Again, we have a couple more applications that go along with this school 7 1 provided this one first because I think it's probably the major 8 9 Cadena Okay, so when you talk about Sonoma then 10 11 Lee So we'll also back here, also be presenting on again the extension of 12 Sonoma Ranch from Dripping Springs to Lohman as well as the 13 connection of Missouri from its existing point at the City limits to Sonoma 14 Ranch So we are looking at that. 15 16 Cadena Okay Let me get this comment behind you and then we'll go ahead and 17 let you continue with your presentation 18 19 Conway, Thank you I'm Jean Conway again with the Mesilla Valley Bicycle 20 Coalition and the Royals, and also a commuter from the Talavera area 1 21 ride down that road very frequently; about half of my time going to work at 22 the University is going down Dripping Springs Road And right now for me 23 1 feel right now fairly safe on that road with the bike lanes, but with the 24 addition of the traffic and particularly that intersection, it's going to get 25 pretty hairy there So I would appreciate widening that road and 26 particularly paying attention to the intersection at that road because I think 27 it's going to become a very dangerous place for cyclists Also, I think it 28 has not been mentioned yet is that along Dripping Springs Road it's not 29 just cyclists riding there, it's one of the most popular cycling routes in the 30 whole area because it has that climb up Soledad Canyon that cyclists like 31 to use But there are also a lot of people who walk along there and who 32 jog along there And I think there's going to be a collision driving cyclists 33 off to the side into those walkers and riders, and with increased traffic 34 along that road I would think that it's a very dangerous it's not quite so 35 dangerous in my opinion now, but a lot of people are afraid to ride along 36 there But with the addition of the traffic I think we really do need to 37 address that. Thank you 38 39 Cadena Thank you very much Let's go ahead and finish the presentation, or 40 continue with 41 42 Lee This was actually the end of this presentation But I would like to continue 43 on with the others 44 45 Cadena Yes, please 46 33 I Lee And hopefully that can answer some of the other questions Again, as 2 part of the school's presentations, we are also presenting on Sonoma 3 Ranch Boulevard, again to accommodate this new fourth high school 4 Again, Sonoma Ranch Boulevard is on the east border of the school site 5 here In its existing conditions now Sonoma Ranch exists from US 70 6 south to I believe approximately this Golf Club Road and very near 7 completion to tying into Lohman So we would be proposing from Lohman 8 to Dripping Springs which would provide a secondary access to the school 9 site And here's the school site plan with Sonoma on the east, 10 background information Here's an aerial photo, you can see in the 11 existing conditions this is a currently a utility easement with an access 12 road on top of it through BLM land and no roadway exists there This 13 where Sonoma ties in to Lohman now and again this doesn't show it, but 14 there is roadway being constructed there now It's very near completion 15 This is the south portion with our site here, and Sonoma Ranch coming 16 down Another couple of things to note are the drainage flow pass cutting 17 across the school site as well as this Sonoma Ranch alignment. There 18 are two major ones, one here to the north and one here to the south that 19 would have to be accommodated with crossing here, essentially a bridge 20 and another major crossing here, another bridge And then Dripping 21 Springs on the south here Again, in the existing conditions, this is a 22 major arterial based on the MPO with 130-foot right-of-way Again I spoke 23 on the existing conditions more and what the existing conditions through 24 our project. 25 Here are some pictures showing this is the intersection of 26 Dripping Springs looking up Sonoma. This is where the school site would 27 be And you can see again this is a dirt path which accesses the gravel pit 28 and then the greenhouses here, and then continues on with the utility 29 corridor which has gas and utilities in it. Here are some pictures of this 30 is looking south from Lohman You can see there's been some grading 31 through here associated with the other project that we would continue on 32 And this goes to the dump to the south And then also this is the same 33 intersection looking north, you can see the improvements that have 34 recently been in place and there's missing a gap here It's not open yet, 35 but it looks like it's very near completion 36 When we put this package together, we used proposed 37 improvements again the City Design Standards and we are assuming one 38 half of the ultimate section which would include two 12-foot driving lanes a 39 median, bike lane, and four-foot sidewalks As part of the school's project, 40 we have been contracted to do a traffic impact assessment for the 41 intersection of Sonoma and Dripping Springs, based on the impact that 42 just the school would have And with that we did go ahead and look at 43 some of the impacts that the MPO's planning and the connection of 44 Sonoma would have on that. And that report isn't final yet, but based on 45 the information I have currently , it's looking like opening Sonoma Ranch 46 up from Lohman to Dripping Springs is going to allow or will send a lot 34 I more traffic that way than we had anticipated And again it's not 2 necessarily just for the school's benefit, but also for a lot of the areas that 3 live again once this is connected all the way from 70, residents from all 4 the way up to 70 trying to get down to University etc , instead of taking the 5 interstate which we know backs up, would be looking for alternate routes 6 and would potentially come down this road So as part of that 7 assessment, we now think that two lanes would not be sufficient and that's 8 why I started with Dripping Springs tonight. Initially we had Sonoma as 9 our major priority, but we feel now that as soon as Sonoma gets opened, it 10 would need to be four full lanes to accommodate all that traffic And also 11 Dripping Springs would need to be improved as well So now we're kind 12 of looking at it from a different standpoint and saying we think Dripping 13 Springs should be the priority, to get that developed as well as that 14 intersection which had been brought up a moment ago We are also 15 proposing just with the school site a stop condition, a three way stop at 16 that intersection but when Sonoma opens and also at full development of 17 the school, that's probably going to need to be a signal And so that would 18 be another issue 19 So continuing on, I mention the proposed improvements again 20 based on what we had here We had a half section which would here 21 are some pictures of the existing to the north here which shows the full 22 section for a major arterial, full four-lanes, a median, as well as left turn 23 lanes, and this is again based on the City's standard for a major arterial 24 Again, we are proposing half, but we think now that the full section would 25 be better suited in the full build out. Likewise, we did an estimate based 26 on the 2.2 miles all the way from Dripping Springs to Lohman Avenue, 2.2 27 miles, based on a half section again I brought up those two major 28 drainage crossings as well as there are six other minor crossings that will 29 be handled with small culverts, and we came up to the tune of $9 million 30 Again, with what we know now about the traffic and four full lanes, that 31 would go up substantially by approximately less than half And some of 32 the impacts associated with that, again connection from Dripping Springs 33 to Lohman would provide a secondary access for the school, but also for 34 the residents living in Talavera to access Lohman Avenue, but also for 35 residents out on the East Mesa heading south to University And so 1 36 think this statement about it would reduce somewhat reduce traffic on 37 Telshor and 1-25, but we think it would increase it on University and 38 Dripping Springs Again, the full section would provide trips for biking, 39 walking, and transit. Questions? Again, I do have one more that would go 40 over Missouri Avenue 41 42 Cadena I think this Committee would agree that you're going to have to have some 43 traffic lights there at the high school 44 45 Lee It's looking more and more like that. Yes 46 35 I Cadena Anyone else on the Committee? 2 3 S Thomas I have one 4 5 Cadena Councilor Thomas and then Commissioner Benavidez. 6 7 S Thomas Thank you Mr Mayor Of course we've had a lot of meetings about this 8 and as you might recall one discussion, one night was about a retention 9 pond out to the north and east. That might allow the arroyo crossings to 10 be less expensive Has there been any more investigation into that 11 possibility? 12 13 Lee Yes, that is correct. We've actually been in talks Again, this is the 14 portion, the site is NMSU's land There's a private land owner here But 15 the majority of the land out here is BLM We've been in talk with them 16 The area you're discussing is approximately right here Yes, this bridge 17 here is about $1 5 million in itself and then that convenes through the 18 school site as well as down into the Farm and Ranch Museum where it 19 converges with this other drainage here and then goes under the new 20 road at Dripping Springs done by the County, and into the dam there We 21 have been in talks about potentially placing a pond here BLM I believe 22 has committed to offering up that land as long as someone's willing to 23 maintain it. What that would do is is it would I don't know if it would 24 save a whole lot of costs overall, it might just be a wash, but there is the 25 potential Again, this structure here does get smaller so that there's a cost 26 savings there Improvements through the school and down through the 27 Farm and Ranch, as well as the crossing structure at Dripping Springs, 28 and then the dam as well, would have less flows coming through them and 29 so therefore would be less inclined to flooding, washouts, etc 30 31 S Thomas And we have had problems down around the Farm and Ranch, so it would 32 have multiple benefits if we could do the retention pond 33 34 Lee I think everybody's in favor of it and it makes a lot of sense 35 36 S Thomas Okay I'm happy to hear that. Negotiating with BLM and it's a possibility 37 38 Lee Yes 39 40 S Thomas Thank you Councilor Commissioner 41 42 Benavidez Yes, I can see the traffic coming in from Highway 70 down to University 43 When do you think the school is due to be completed? 44 45 Lee Sorry I didn't mention that. Right now we're looking to break ground this 46 summer and estimated completion date of the school is fall 2011 to open 36 I up And that would be, I don't know the word for it, they would allow ninth 2 grade They would stage the students through that so it wouldn't be fully 3 enrolled at that time, but it would progress up to that within the next four 4 years it would be 5 6 Benavidez. Okay Thank you 7 8 Lee Welcome 9 10 Cadena Trustee Arzabal 11 12 Arzabal Just to probably get off task for one question Is that the same ground 13 breaking for the middle school? 14 15 Lee I believe it's probably somewhere in there 16 17 Arzabal Okay 18 19 Cadena Alright. Any other comments, questions? Andy and people from the 20 public, go ahead and lineup 21 22 Zagona My name is Helen Zagona again And 1 am representing the Talavera 23 Community Association We represent all of the residents who live behind 24 A Mountain There are now hundreds of houses out there And the traffic 25 coming in and out of Talavera only can go on Dripping Springs Road 26 There is no other way to get in and out to town other than Dripping 27 Springs Road And there are currently at least to our count, four new 28 developments that could go in very soon So we're talking about a great 29 number of people Also, I would like to reiterate that Dripping Springs 30 Road is used by many bicyclists because they use the University 31 students come up Dripping Springs Road to use the bike trails on A 32 Mountain right there So there are a large, large, large number of 33 bicyclists on Dripping Springs Road The school district in its wisdom has 34 chosen to place this new high school out in the desert where there are 35 currently no roads Basically, that's exactly what they have done Okay, 36 so representing the residents who are now going to be going down the 37 road past where all of the traffic is going to empty out, we have grave, 38 grave, concerns about the safety of that road Two-thousand students 39 plus faculty and staff will be using this high school in a very short amount 40 of time Because they will be breaking ground here in a couple of months 41 So we do not have a great deal of time to just sit around and talk about 42 what we're going to do 43 First of all, students coming into the high school currently, the way it 44 is planned, will have to make a left turn to get into this high school against 45 traffic that will be coming down Dripping Springs Road from where we live 46 All of the people who live there who commute in and out every day will be 37 I going straight down Dripping Springs Road and there will be students 2 trying to turn left into this high school, because there is no other way 3 currently to get into the high school We talked before the other thing 4 is, the intersection of Sonoma Ranch Boulevard and Dripping Springs 5 Road is immediately at the west end of the A Mountain curve The A 6 Mountain curve is completely a blind curve You do not see around that 7 curve until you're coming until you are practically right on to that 8 intersection So you will have many, many people coming down that road 9 on their way to work, in a hurry, and then right at that end of that blind 10 curve is where that intersection will be and students will be making a left 11 hand turn trying to get into that campus 12 We talked earlier about student safety being a very important 13 priority and I think that this project here is of utmost importance because 14 of student safety This will be a project that will impact immediately 15 thousands of people People who live out there and people who are trying 16 to get in and out of that school All of the projects that you have heard this 17 evening are worthy projects Every single one of them And it would be 18 really great if we could do all of them But since we can't do all of them, it 19 seems that student safety and impacting thousands of people should 20 make this a very, very high priority I stand here on behalf of all of the 21 residents in that area, and all of the students who are going to be going to 22 this school and I ask you to place this high on your priority list to have 23 multiple access to this school, not just from Dripping Springs, but from 24 other directions too Sonoma Ranch Boulevard and Missouri, which he 25 hasn't told you about yet. But this is extremely important. Thank you 26 27 Woywood My name is Brett Woywood I'm assistant grounds manager at New 28 Mexico State University, and I serve as the University's representative on 29 the Bicycle and Pedestrian Facilities Advisory Committee The 30 presentation we heard for this project did include just the one way, the half 31 of the road width and at that time the presenter was willing to 32 accommodate striping to include a bike lane going each direction on each 33 side of the road I cannot speak for my other members, but I do suspect 34 they would welcome this full width of bike lane in each direction Thank 35 you 36 37 Cadena Andy 38 39 Hume Mr Chair, there's a comment from the public that I want to bring up the 40 current ranking 41 42 Soriano Thank you Mr Chair, members of the Committee I'm Dan Soriano, City 43 of Las Cruces Traffic Engineer I also sit on the Technical Advisory 44 Committee, the Advisory Committee to this body here and what I wanted 45 to point out to you all this evening, as far as the final scorings, particularly 46 with the Technical Advisory Committee was concerned, is we as a body of 38 I professionals and technical group recognize the importance of projects 2 We had the opportunity last month to sit and go through all these 3 applications and hear the presentations just as you are tonight. As you 4 can see from our rankings, we have Sonoma Ranch, this particular project 5 ranked as the top project and then Dripping Springs is pretty close 6 second I think we as a Technical group recognize that these are very, 7 very important projects here in the City, especially in light that this could 8 be annexed into the City proper Not only will Sonoma Ranch connection 9 in particular serve the school traffic, it will also help alleviate some of the 10 traffic problems we're having on the Lohman corridor, the Telshor corridor, 11 the Missouri corridor, as well as Dripping Springs Road I can't over 12 emphasize how important this project is, especially in light of the high 13 school that's coming on line here in about two years As you've heard 14 some of the previous comments, it's really going to make impacts, large 15 impacts, adverse impacts to Dripping Springs Road, if that happens to be 16 the only access in and out of the high school But again, the Sonoma 17 Ranch will not only serve that purpose, but it will also affect traffic flow 18 through a lot of that particular area that is becoming very heavily 19 congested now So your consideration, strong consideration to this 20 project and the Dripping Springs project is appreciated Thank you 21 22 Jones Mr Chairman, may I ask a question of Mr Soriano? 23 24 Cadena Sure 25 26 Jones Thank you I notice Missouri, there is a big gap between Missouri and the 27 two rankings of Dripping Springs Road and Sonoma Ranch under the TAC 28 score Is it that far back behind the other parcels, excuse me, projects as 29 it relates to the high school and the impending traffic it will create? 30 31 Soriano Mr Chair, Councilor Jones, the Missouri link is certainly would be 32 beneficial, but we don't feel we didn't feel as a group it was quite as 33 vital as these two links here It certainly would help and of course there 34 are other impacts we have to consider as far as the residents that are 35 living along that corridor I think as a whole we felt and of course we've 36 had a lot of discussion on these projects at the time that we were scoring 37 these, that really the arterials were the ones that needed the attention, and 38 that we really needed to focus on giving those the heaviest weights 39 Again, after discussion we all realized that with the school that's going on 40 line, those are the two roadways that are going to be carrying the brunt of 41 this traffic, along with any future development that happens on that east 42 side So, again echoing what some of the comments you've heard now as 43 far as the detrimental affects to Dripping Springs Road, if that serves as 44 the sole access to the high school The Sonoma Ranch in tandem with 45 Dripping Springs is really going to be vital for this whole area and this 46 whole part of Las Cruces 39 1 2 Jones Thank you 3 4 Hume Mr Chair, members of the Committee One thing that I'd like to point out 5 for the Committee when you're considering assigning points to any of 6 these projects, we are not looking to change the TIP application on the fly, 7 because this has gone through an open public process It has been 8 available for public comment. We've had our Advisory Committee 9 meetings also available for public comment. The amendment that was 10 discussed this evening by Mr Lee is not up for consideration by the 11 Committee If you assign points it will be based on the application that 12 you have in your possession this evening, which is only one-half of the 13 section of the roadway What we would suggest is if Las Cruces Public 14 Schools as the sponsoring agency is interested in reapplying as a full 15 section or amending the TIP later on to a full section, we can certainly 16 work with them, work with Bohannan Huston as their representatives, and 17 also the City since this would be a City roadway, to work through that 18 amendment process I just want to make that very clear because we try to 19 be sticklers as far as our public process and we don't want to interrupt that 20 process mid stream right before we would complete ranking So I wanted 21 to point that out and I'll answer any questions if there are any about that. 22 23 Cadena Thank you Andy 24 25 Hume If there aren't any questions, then Mr Chair, I think there is one more 26 project that for the school district to present. 27 28 Lee I'd like to address some of the comments before I move on and some will 29 transition well into that 30 31 Cadena Alright. Let me ask you to do it as quickly as you can 32 33 Lee Sure The first thing about the intersection, again we're very cognisant of 34 the problems here and working to resolve those Again, I mentioned the 35 study we're doing for the intersection here We're hoping to have that 36 finalized as a first review in the next week or so and if so inclined we'd like 37 if you'd like us to, to put us on your next agenda, we would have some 38 simulations for that that we could go over as well So that's that. 39 Another one, again we'll transition into the Missouri the 40 gentleman from the Bicycle Committee mentioned the section that was 41 proposed It applies to both Sonoma as a half section and Missouri 42 Avenue We did submit that as an addendum and it would show an 43 alternate to the section for major and minor arterial to include instead of 44 six-foot bike lane on one side, narrowing that to four-foot as well as 11- 45 foot driving lanes to accommodate another four-foot bike lane on the other 46 side Again, we submitted that as an addendum in our packet. These 40 I sections were taken directly out of the City's Design Standards So that 2 section would deviate from their Design Standards and would pend their 3 approval, but it definitely is an option 4 With that said, I'll move into the Missouri Avenue application 5 Again, to serve this fourth high school and to provide another access 6 point, we would propose with this application connecting Missouri from its 7 existing point at the City limits into Sonoma Ranch And I think that might 8 have been one of the reasons this was ranked lower than the other two 9 The way we handled that application was contingent on Sonoma Ranch 10 being developed prior because our limits were from the City to Sonoma, 11 and there would be a gap from what the school is doing up to that point. 12 So again the way we handled it was contingent upon Sonoma Ranch 13 being developed In its existing conditions right now again in the 14 background you can see kind of a picture, this is looking east at the 15 terminus of that roadway Missouri Avenue is classified as a minor arterial 16 which has a 100-foot right-of-way and this is the existing section up to that 17 point. You can see two, again rather wide driving lanes as well as bike 18 lanes on both sides and then an area for parking with side walk, curb and 19 gutter, and street lighting on both sides Here's an aerial, again of our 20 project limits and this shows the this is the north boundary of the school 21 site So this shows that gap that would exist as we have it. So again 22 Sonoma should really come before this extension Again, here are some 23 pictures of the existing conditions Missouri currently goes through a 24 residential neighborhood and that's why it's kind of a unique section for a 25 minor arterial Again, you can see the bike lanes as well as the parking on 26 the other side, and this is where it ends right at the City limits 27 So what we would propose is to extend this portion of the roadway 28 with City Standards for a minor arterial, half of that section since the main 29 since the full section for a minor arterial is four full lanes, we wouldn't 30 want to have four lanes coming into those two lanes right away I believe 31 the good compromise would be to have two lanes in the interim 32 connecting to these two lanes which would then transition down into two 33 12-foot lanes with the median Again, we show a six-foot bike lane on one 34 side based on this section, but again it could be striped temporarily to 35 accommodate two four-foot bike lanes and two 11-foot driving lanes 36 without increasing any of the pavement. For one mile, based on the half 37 section, again with some other assumptions, there are some flow paths 38 that cross there that we assume we're looking at about $3 5 million And 39 again the impacts that this would have would provide another access point 40 to the school as well as a route for those living in the Talavera area and 41 the Telshor area to access Sonoma Ranch It would potentially increase 42 the traffic through the residential area along Missouri, but it may reduce 43 traffic on Telshor Boulevard, potentially University and it would provide 44 additional modes for biking, walking, and transit. With that, I'll stand for 45 any questions 46 41 I Cadena Questions, comments? Committee? Well I would agree with staff at 2 some point you'd almost have to come in for redesign with the four lanes 3 because that's what the traffic projections are showing, as far as Sonoma 4 5 Lee Correct. 6 7 Cadena Okay Anyone else? The public? 8 9 Yabumoto Mr Chair, members of the Committee, I'm Gary Yabumoto with ASA 10 Architects here in Las Cruces We are the lead architect for this particular 11 project. And I'm not sure if this a committee or endurance test here, so 1 12 will try to be brief A little bit of background too I headed up the Site 13 Selection Committee for the administration at Las Cruces Public Schools 14 We were asked to evaluate four sites Okay, so four sites were given to 15 us Two of the sites actually this site was rated number three out of 16 four So the first two sites unfortunately came under a cloud of suspicion 17 when the attorney general started to look into how state land was actually 18 allocated throughout the County So that put that back. So it really left us 19 with only two sites, this one and way one on the West Mesa which 20 wasn't even viable There are a lot of problems with it. In defense of the 21 school district too, up until fairly recently they were led to believe by a 22 developer that that developer would build the road down from Sonoma 23 and extend it all the way to Dripping Springs So we always assumed that 24 at some point that we were going to have two points of access That fell 25 through the housing market went bad actually So, I think we're all aware 26 Helen spoke very eloquently on how this will impact everybody A couple 27 of things to think about, right now I think the traffic flow on Dripping 28 Springs without this is about 3,000 cars a day And so imagine what the 29 traffic is we're looking at probably and Jared can correct if I'm wrong, 30 but it's up to 500 TURNED TALKING TO AUDIENCE MEMBER. About 31 600 more cars at peak hours So imagine the traffic backed up all the way 32 past Lohman going southbound, getting off University and then add 33 another 400 cars to that. So the severity is there We're behind, we're 34 actually way behind the curve of where we would want to be for a host of 35 different reasons, and we ask your indulgence and your consideration of 36 this Obviously we are equally as concerned, me as a design professional 37 just quale at the idea of all the complications that this one project has 38 created And I'll stand for any technical questions about the high school 39 and itself Initially when the high school we hoped to break ground in 40 June of this year, which means that you will have construction traffic as 41 early as July of this year Okay, that's number one Number two, initially 42 when the school opens, traditionally you have a large freshman class and 43 then transfers are allowed and then volunteers come in, so you don't have 44 quite as many of the upper level kids coming But the ninth graders are 45 the ones that have to be bussed and brought by parents as well, so you're 46 introducing that traffic However, it is not the teenage drivers that you 42 I have that are 10th grade, 11th grade, 12th grade, but if the projections 2 hold true, it took Onate close to 15 years to reach capacity And if the 3 projections hold true with the new battalion, we'll be at capacity in about 4 4 years We'll be at 2,000 students then Any other technical questions 1 5 can answer as the architect? 6 7 Cadena No We're certainly not going to entertain the political reasons for the site 8 selection That's not the forum for this 9 10 Yabumoto I understand 11 12 Cadena We're challenged with just dealing with the transportation issues that were 13 put forth to us 14 15 Yabumoto I understand 16 17 Cadena Those type of comments or questions, anybody? 18 19 Yabumoto Thank you 20 21 Cadena Thank you Appreciate it. Alright, who's next? 22 23 Hume Mr Chair, we have two more brief presentations, both by New Mexico 24 State University And after that we will wrap up with the scoring of the 25 projects Keep in mind jot down on a piece of paper, we're not going to 26 call out we're not going to have you call out your assignment for points 27 Please write down the project and the number of points you want to assign 28 to that project. If you identify the University project, please identify 29 whether it's the Town of Mesilla project or the one from New Mexico State 30 that you're going to hear in just a moment. What I'm going to do to help 31 out with their presentation is actually bring back the let me show you 32 I'll bring up these maps here for them Which one would you like to do 33 first, Arrowhead or University? University, okay I guess it just lets you 34 bring up one at a time So, there you go 35 36 Walke I'm Greg Walke I'm representing New Mexico State University And we 37 have two projects to present. The first one I'm going to talk about is 38 University Avenue Basically the reconstruction of University Avenue 39 between 1-25 and 1-10 As you know, University Avenue has developed 40 over many years from a rural country road to a major arterial, but it 41 focuses primarily on vehicular traffic There are virtually no facilities for 42 bicycles, pedestrians, or transit. So, as part of the master plan that was 43 adopted by the University in 2006, we foresee the reconstruction of that 44 road to provide a median in the middle for safe crossing, we improve 45 pedestrian crossings, much wider sidewalks on both sides for pedestrians, 46 and wide bicycle lanes on both sides that will tie into the City's and the 43 I County's bicycle system and their paths The University is wanting to turn 2 its face towards the City of Las Cruces and towards University Avenue 3 New buildings will be constructed along University and the intention is to 4 change that into a calmer, more peaceful, and pedestrian and bicycle 5 oriented space I'll stand for questions 6 7 Cadena. Questions or comments? Alright. What about the other project? Anybody 8 in the public? Come on up 9 10 Conway This is Jean Conway again, cyclist. I said I felt comfortable on Dripping 11 Springs Road I do not feel comfortable on a bicycle on University There 12 is no place for a bicycle there I drive up and down there, I see college 13 students crossing at random because the crosswalks are so far apart they 14 feel like they need to cross in the middle of crosswalks and I think it would 15 just be a very much nicer and safer interface between the City of Las 16 Cruces and the University to improve that piece of road Thank you 17 18 Cadena Thank you 19 20 Hume And with that Mr Chair we have one more presentation for the evening 21 Again, from New Mexico State University on Arrowhead interchange 22 23 Walke Again Greg Walke for New Mexico State University The other project that 24 we are proposing is an interchange on Interstate 10 at right about where 25 Arrowhead road is right now As you know there are two projects that are 26 going on right now; one is the Highway Department is constructing 27 planning and constructing a new interchange between 1-25 and 1-10 that 28 will make that much safer and much more usable And then the University 29 is extending Payne Street from next to the stadium down towards the 30 south to tie into Arrowhead Drive at Sam Steele Way And with the 31 addition of an interchange at that point, we would be able to take much of 32 the traffic that currently goes out onto University Avenue, either via Las 33 Alturas or from the University, and direct it to the south to use 1-10 There 34 are a number of residential areas, the south side of Las Cruces that would 35 also have access then into the University It would probably become a 36 primary major entrance to the University The other thing that it would be 37 doing is improving or actually creating bicycle and pedestrian paths where 38 there are none now There is no way to get across the south side of the 39 University by bicycle or walking As that area grows with the Arrowhead 40 Research Park, we expect that there will be a lot more of that kind of traffic 41 and this interchange would help that tremendously with bridges across the 42 interstate I'll stand for questions 43 44 Cadena Thank you And we appreciate you being patient and being the last 45 presenter 46 44 I Walke Do I get the point for that? You did say that. 2 3 Cadena I did say that. 4 5 Walke I won't hold you to it. 6 7 Cadena Any comments, questions? Anybody in the public? Yes, sir, come on up 8 Come on up Yeah, that's fine 9 10 Pearson I waited until I heard everything 11 12 Cadena Appreciate you waiting patiently 13 14 Pearson There are three projects that stand out to me that seem to be important. 15 The Dripping Springs Road one Oh, I'm sorry, George Pearson The 16 Dripping Springs Road project because of the problems that are going to 17 be involved there with the school being forced the school's coming, you 18 got to do something about it, so that roadway has to be accommodated in 19 some way The Town of Mesilla project on University Avenue I see as 20 very important. I try to ride my bicycle as much as I can When I can't ride 21 my bicycle and bring my car into the shop, I have to use University 22 Avenue to get to where I work. So, I've used that occasionally and it's not 23 very bicycle friendly So improvements there especially with all the input 24 you heard earlier with the two schools there As a recreational bicyclist, 25 the Calle de Norte pathway is important, so improving that roadway If 26 you're able to pick another project, I'd go finish the whole route all the way 27 out to Picacho Avenue Thank you 28 29 Cadena Appreciate your comments Anyone else? Andy 30 31 Hume I think that's it for the comments Mr Chair At this time if you would 32 please make a note of how you would like to assign your discretionary 33 points Each Committee member gets five points to assign as you 34 choose We'll go through, we'll give you just a couple of minutes to assign 35 those and if you have it just go ahead and set the paper up in front of you 36 37 Cadena. Before we do that, can I ask you one more favor? Can we put the cost up 38 of each project again? Do we have a slide showing that? Or potential 39 costs 40 41 Hume You know what; we don't have a slide with all those costs 42 43 Cadena Can we read off the potential costs or the estimated costs on what was 44 45 Hume Okay, what I'm going to do Mr Chair to assist with this is go back to pull 46 up the projects here 45 1 2 Cadena I apologize 3 4 Hume That's okay That's a fair question This is for the school projects, the 5 Dripping Springs was $7 million 6 7 Arzabal They're waiting for your stuff 8 9 Cadena. I'm the only one that hasn't done it. Time's up Andy 10 11 Hume I'm recalling these from memory, so please bear with me 12 13 Cadena That's all millions? 14 15 Hume University, Town of Mesilla Okay Thank you Okay, so let's see if I can 16 reduce this See if we can see all these together Okay, so, University 17 Avenue project is $900,000 Calle de Norte was $2 5 million Sonoma 18 Ranch was $9 million, remember that's for the half section only For 19 Dripping Springs improvements were $7 million For Missouri Avenue, 20 again half section only, that would be $3 5 million Berino Road is $2 7 21 Dona Ana School and the Camino Real intersection is $900,000 22 Fairacres is $3 million University is $9 million And Arrowhead 23 interchange is $20 Are there any questions? 24 25 Cadena Appreciate you clarifying that. 26 27 Hume Not a problem, sir 28 29 Cadena Alright. As you tally those up, I'd just like to comment as a Chair and I'm 30 sure I speak for the Committee that all 10 of these projects are needed 31 and worthwhile and regardless of what gets on the list, that we need to 32 work together, not only as a Committee, but also all the communities 33 involved to push forth and make sure that at some point we move these 34 we get these projects funded, move them up on the list and get them 35 constructed And I appreciate every the BPAC and the TAC and staffs 36 hard work on this, and certainly all the input from the public 37 38 Hume And please follow along too as I'm entering your scores If something 39 doesn't seem right based on the paper you gave me Okay Mr Chair 40 We're done tallying the scores And what I'll do very quickly is adjust the 41 ranking based on the final scores and it looks like the ranking changed 42 We have four points for Fairacres All the points over here equal let's 43 see here, let me go back and review We're one short on one of the 1 44 apologize for that. Let me go back and check. See that's why I have the 45 double check in there Okay, all the Policy Committee members here who 46 have voted have chosen to assign all five of their discretionary points 46 I And, let me go back because this actually changes to 14 And Mr Chair, 2 members of the Committee, this is the final ranking as determined by this 3 Committee and assigning your discretionary points We have in first the 4 Town of Mesilla's project with University Avenue Second is the Las 5 Cruces Public Schools project for Dripping Springs Road Third is 6 Fairacres Road Fourth Sonoma Ranch Boulevard Fifth Calle de Norte 7 Sixth Camino Real and Dona Ana School interchange Seven is Missouri 8 Eight is University Nine is Berino And ten is Arrowhead interchange 9 Mr Chair, now at this point in time, as the MPO, it is your obligation to 10 review this ranking and if it meets with your approval, then what 11 recommend Mr Chair is that we have a motion to adopt the 2010 12 Transportation Improvement Program as amended by this final ranking 13 We would need a motion and a second on that. It would also include the 14 information that we went over about two hours ago, which is a long time 15 ago, but the information that we had in the handouts that I had for you Or 16 if it's the discretion of the MPO, we can entertain further discussion by this 17 body on this ranking So, Mr Chair, probably it would be appropriate to 18 have a motion and a second to approve the TIP as adopted and then have 19 further discussion if needed 20 21 Jones Mr Chairman I move to adopt the TIP as discussed 22 23 Arzabal Second 24 25 Cadena Been here so long it's getting disgusting 26 27 Hume And the second was? Trustee Arzabal Thank you 28 29 Cadena Any further discussion by the Policy? Anyone in the public? All in favor 30 31 Arzabal No, it's a resolution 32 33 Cadena It's a resolution Give me a roll call 34 35 Hume Mr Chair, I'll do a roll call vote Trustee Arzabal 36 37 Arzabal Yes 38 39 Hume Councilor Jones 40 41 Jones Yes 42 43 Hume Councilor Thomas 44 45 S Thomas Yes 46 47 I Hume Trustee Bernal 2 3 Bernal Yes 4 5 Hume Commissioner Benavidez. 6 7 Benavidez: Yes 8 9 Hume And Chair 10 11 Cadena Yes 12 13 Hume Thank you very much Mr Chair We will work diligently to keep you 14 abreast on funding opportunities for these projects as they come up 15 16 Cadena Thank you very much 17 18 Hume Give yourselves a big hand because we actually got through that faster 19 than our advisory committees 20 21 7 DISCUSSION ITEMS 22 23 7.1 Staff Updates 24 25 7 1 1 Transport 2040 Update 26 27 Cadena Alright. We have a few other items on the agenda and hopefully we can 28 get through them quickly It seems like So let's do staff updates 29 30 Hume Mr Chair, just a brief update on Transport 2040 We have completed 31 phase one which involved several rounds of public involvement as well as 32 a great deal of meetings with our Technical Advisory Committee 33 stakeholders We had numerous other stakeholder meetings I think 34 we've had 14 or 15 stakeholder meetings, in addition to all of our public 35 meetings We are compiling the information right now and we will be 36 bringing all of those comments to you at your May meeting We will have 37 a little bit more opportunity for discussion at that time We're moving into 38 phase two of the development of Transport 2040 which is analysis and 39 developing some recommendations We will continue to work with our 40 advisory committees, the public, our stakeholders, and you all as well 41 42 Cadena Anybody else, questions, comments, updates? Let's move on to 43 Transport 2040 update 44 45 Arzabal That was it. 46 48 1 7 1.2 NMDOT news and updates 2 3 Cadena I'm sorry The DOT news and update 4 5 Hume Mr Chair, first of all I need to apologize to those who have been here 6 waiting for so long We have some guests from City, County, and other 7 places who have been waiting patiently for this update on ADA. What was 8 handed out to you were three pieces of information and a small packet. 9 I'm going to go over the points on that first page very briefly because they 10 do involve policy issues that you will need to address with your respective 11 governmental agencies 12 13 Cadena Yes, please 14 15 Hume First of all Mr Chair, I'm just sort of going to read through some of the 16 quick ones and mention some high points Point number one, all 17 recipients of Federal dollars to construct facilities, in particular we're 18 talking about transportation, must be accessible to everyone, including 19 people with disabilities That sort of sets the groundwork for the rest of 20 everything Part of that is a requirement for all state and local 21 governments with 50 or more employees including police and fire, to 22 identify an ADA coordinator Now Mr Chair if I may make mention of a 23 couple of individuals, couple of guests we have this evening First of all 24 on my left is Kathy Stark who is HR director and I think is transitioning 25 ADA coordinator to your new hirer Hello new hirer Good to meet you 26 I'm Andy Hume And so they handle ADA issues for the County And 27 then sitting in the back row is Mary Pierce who is the City's EEO officer 28 and ADA coordinator I just wanted to recognize them and thank them for 29 sitting through what I hope was an interesting meeting But a lot of 30 information tonight. So we need to I'm sorry? 31 32 SOMEONE SPEAKING IN AUDIENCE 33 34 Hume I'm not familiar with what the new hires name is and I can't hear Kate 35 Shannasy Okay Good to meet you Kate Thank you These individuals 36 are key to your respective organizations, the City and the County, as far 37 as ADA issues are concerned What they need to be working on 38 hopefully your agencies already have one, is an ADA transition plan And 39 that's really the meat of item number two If you don't have one, you 40 should have had one by 1995 But if you don't have one or you haven't 41 updated your ADA transition plan that needs to be worked on I'm not 42 familiar with the staffing levels for the Town of Mesilla, but if you have 43 more than 50 employees for your town, it's important that you identify an 44 ADA coordinator as soon as possible 45 Moving onto item number three The department of transportation 46 has a great deal of responsibility in coordinating ADA issues within the 49 I state Jody Ortiz, Mr Ortiz is the ADA coordinator for the Department of 2 Transportation He was unfortunately unable to be here this evening But 3 at the bottom of this sheet is his contact information He will be working 4 directly with your identified ADA coordinators 5 Item number four When they are identified, of course we have 6 hopefully two out of three, I'm not sure if again Mesilla let me just make 7 this comment Mr Chair Even if you don't have 50 employees, I would still 8 recommend identifying somebody as a point person in your organization 9 who can work with Mr Ortiz As soon as those are identified, there will be 10 a training here in Las Cruces and will probably encompass most of 11 southern New Mexico We'll be bringing all the ADA coordinators here for 12 specific training by Mr Ortiz. They will include what a model transition 13 plan should look like, how it should be developed, and also any complaint 14 processes that are required as part of the Federal process Keep in mind, 15 this is not a Department of Transportation issue, this is a Department of 16 Justice issue, as all civil rights legislation is So, keep that in mind, this is 17 very important information we're talking about. 18 Finally, what I want to make mention of and I'm not sure if anyone 19 here is from the Southwest RPO area or not, and again I apologize if you 20 had to make that trip But, on May 19th Mr Ortiz will be coming back 21 down here to have a meeting with the Southwest RPO which consists 22 basically of everything west of Dona Ana County, including Silver City, 23 Lordsburg, Deming, etc If you are interested, what we would like to do is 24 make arrangements for either your ADA coordinators or yourselves as 25 Policy Board members of your respective jurisdictions, we can get 26 together and make the trip out there You can meet Mr Ortiz and perhaps 27 get a little bit more information than what I'm giving you in this short 28 presentation Please let me know if you're interested in doing that. We 29 can get together some we can carpool out there 30 Mr Chair, thank you very much for your attention Are there any 31 questions from the Committee or the public on this issue? 32 33 Cadena. Committee? Public? Thank you for your fine presentation on this 34 important issue here 35 36 Hume Did you have any comments Mr Gallagher? No, okay 37 38 7 1 3 Development Review 39 40 Cadena Then I think we're at development review 41 42 Hume Mr Chair, development review has been provided in your packets There 43 are some tables there with some of the projects that have gone through 44 Also, there should be some maps I think included with that. 45 46 Cadena So you stand for questions 50 1 2 Hume We will stand for questions It's information only 3 4 Cadena Okay 5 6 8 COMMITTEE AND STAFF COMMENTS 7 8 Cadena Committee and Staff Comments 9 10 S Thomas I have one, announcement. 11 12 Cadena Alright. 13 14 S Thomas Thank you Mr Mayor I just want to announce that the City of Las Cruces 15 City Council and the EI Paso City Council are having a joint meeting on 16 April the 15th at 1 30 And items on the agenda are commuter rail 17 between EI Paso and the City of Las Cruces, and 18 19 Cadena Where's it at? 20 21 S Thomas The one that EI Paso uses that's in the southern part of the County 22 Landfill issues any way that 23 24 Hume Is it the Camino Real landfill 25 26 S Thomas Camino Real, I think, yeah 27 28 Cadena Is that the one in Sunland Park or that's a different one? 29 30 Hume I'm not familiar with this location sir 31 32 S Thomas And it's at 1 30 at the main library in EI Paso which is at 501 N Oregon 33 34 Cadena Great. Thanks for the update 35 36 Hume Mr Chair Oh, I'm sorry 37 38 Cadena Any other Committee comments? Staff, go ahead 39 40 Hume Staff has one comment Mr Chair For your May meeting we'll be going 41 over the Location Study that you all accepted in February We'll be 42 discussing issues about implementation and timelines of that study So if 43 you need an additional copy of that, please let us know and we can 44 forward that to you That's end of staff comments 45 46 Cadena Very good 51 r 1 2 9 PUBLIC COMMENT 3 4 Cadena Public comments on this or anything else? 5 6 10 ADJOURNMENT— (7 45 p.m ) 7 8 Cadena I'll entertain a motion to adjourn 9 10 Arzabal So moved 11 12 Benavidez Second 13 14 Cadena Anyone opposed? So adjourned 15 16 17 18 19 hr 20 Chairpers 21 52