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08-18-1999 1 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE (DRC) MEETING 2 August 18, 1999 3 4 Following are the summary minutes of the Development Review Committee (DRC) meeting on 5 August 18, 1999, held at City Council Chambers. 6 7 Members Present: Critt Coburn(Fire) 8 Brian Denmark(PLNG) 9 Jim Ericson(DSD) 10 Jorge Garcia(JU) 11 Robert Garza(Engineering) 12 Rollie Wright(Comm. Services Adm.) 13 14 Staff Present: Sheri Anderson(PLNG) 15 Mike Johnson(Traffic Operations) 16 Robert Kyle (PLNG) 17 Dahna Raugh (PLNG 18 Vince Sanchez(JU) 19 Dan Soriano (PLNG) 20 21 Others Present: Harold Denton 22 Tatt Everhart 23 Jack Pickle 24 25 26 I. CALL TO ORDER 27 28 Meeting called to order at 8:40 AM. 29 30 31 II. CASE INTRODUCTION 32 33 1. Pre-application review of a proposed Planned Unit Development located on 34 Farney Lane east of Main St. (DVI, Inc.) 35 36 Utilities 37 38 The only potential issue here is depth of sewer, which is a construction issue, and the grading 39 will determine whether the sewer depth may be a problem. 40 41 For accessibility, gas needs to not be placed under concrete. Gas could be run in the alleys. 42 43 For DVI's next presentation to the DRC, Garcia wants a schematic of changes to the alleyway, 44 including ?... (having utilities facing)the alley. 45 46 Drainaize 47 48 Some of the planned development is located in a flood plain. Denton stated that filling in the 49 flood plain is very expensive. He reported they are considering bringing some water off the 50 lateral and down through. (8 1) They have talked with necessary parties concerning adding 51 another water feature, as well. 52 Denton described: 53 "The stream would be dropped in. We're not showing the topography here, but we're 54 going to get a lot of the dirt that we need to raise these. We're not talking about raising 55 these clear up to flood plain; we're talking about raising it up to basically 82, 83 feet, 56 which is really what this is at through here already. And then we would actually 57 structure a floor and raise these out of the flood plain. So it's a combination of things 58 that we're using there to keep it affordable and to achieve what we're looking for there. " 1 1 2 Garza asked for confirmation from Denton, that they are planning on excavating it out and 3 running water from the lateral. Denton confirmed this and indicated they will use E.B.I.D. water 4 which will be holding, but they will try to get some movement with it. Denton speculated that 5 the body of water may not end up as big as they have discussed; it may result in being a small 6 stream. He said there are a lot of things to be worked out with it. Also, they may look at re- 7 circulation in some of the area. (179) 8 9 From conversations with Church about the drain area, Church has recommended that they handle 10 the storm water and/in(?) a pipe under it, so "we don't get flow?... (easily, in his words)." After 11 Garza recalled how that drain fills from a storm, Denton informed the committee that they are 12 looking at some kind of weir system that would stop flows that come down the drain, and then it 13 will probably be put underneath a certain lot. Then he said, 14 "It may be that we have nothing more than a stream bed coming through here and a big 15 green space, ? (without/with that, 186) a big pond of water. We'd like to see this[the 16 hourglass-shaped body of water on the plan]opened up, especially, into water. This is 17 less important. I think the green space here could be just as beneficial as this. " 18 19 In closing, Denton again asserted that there is a lot of be worked out. 20 21 Fire 22 23 Coburn had concerns regarding the 10-foot distance between the houses because fire could 24 spread easily from one house to another. It was agreed that the developer would put most of the 25 fire hydrants on Farney Lane to address this concern. Also, "No Parking" signs need to be put up 26 so that space is reserved for emergency vehicles. 27 28 Traffic 29 30 Rollie Wright stated that, from his experience, this type of housing attracts of lot of cars per 31 household, and this creates a traffic flow problem. 32 33 Staff had general concerns about driving and parking issues. 34 35 Soriano pushed for an increase in the alley width since it is supposed to accommodate two-way 36 traffic and he anticipates them having more traffic than is typical for alleys. Denmark remarked 37 that the only way for the alley traffic to work is if there is multiple access. In response, Denton 38 said there is 30 feet between houses across the alley and there is 20 feet of right-of-way within 39 that. Denmark suggested having 24 feet of alley roadway in lieu of the 16 feet, saying, "Call 40 these the alleys. Then make this a little wider so people have a choice in which way they go." 41 Coburn emphasized the Code rule to have at least a 20' driveable surface. Another suggestion 42 was to make the one-way streets, which were 16', narrower. 43 44 Parking 45 46 The consensus was to not stripe parking areas. 47 48 For ease of maintenance, it will be better to have concrete parking areas. 49 50 There will have to be some sort of method to prevent each family from parking all of their 51 vehicles on the street, such as having "Short Term Parking" or"Guest Parking" signs. (Street 52 parking is an enforcement problem.) [Another option is parking meters, but this method does not 53 match the low income residents for whom this development will be built.] Also, carports may 54 solve this problem. 55 56 Misc. 57 58 Community lot/Public Gathering Space 2 1 The basketball court may be a source of complaints from neighbors, due to the noise associated 2 with it. 3 4 Denton agreed to put some sort of sidewalk on the edge of the gathering lot. 5 6 Other Misc. 7 8 Denmark asserted that the front lawn issue is one of the issues that will need to be worked out in 9 detail in the PUD document. 10 11 12 Staff's General Responses 13 14 Kyle informed them that there is an existing, valid master plan on the property which needs to be 15 amended. He said it could probably be done through the PUD document. (That master plan has 16 landscaping requirements on the south side of the property adjacent to the north side of the 17 "Apollo Court"neighborhood.) There is also the possibility that Denton will receive 18 neighborhood opposition when he goes to the Commission. 19 20 Conceptually, staff supports this project. Now Denton must return to DRC with more details of 21 his plan before he can proceed to P&Z. He expects to have a concept plan ready for Council in 1 22 to 2 weeks. He anticipates returning to DRC within that amount of time. 23 24 The design must be easy to maintain. 25 26 Staff agreed to treat this development as a"demonstration project." This will be reflected in the 27 resolution approving it, so that it will read, "This is a demonstration project. It does not set 28 precedent, it does not modify design standards, and no other project [inaudible] do it." Denmark 29 stressed that the document must be tight, without loopholes. Kyle suggested having a City 30 Council work session for this project before it proceeds to P&Z. 31 32 33 IV. ADJOURNMENT 34 35 Meeting adj ourned at 9:3 5 AM. 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 3 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AGENDA FOR August 18, 1999 The City of Las Cruces Development Review Committee will consider the following agenda at a meeting to be held Wednesday, August 18, 1999 at 8:30 a.m. in the City Council Chambers, City Hall, 200 N. Church, Las Cruces, NM. I. CALL TO ORDER II. CASE INTRODUCTION 1. Pre-application review of a proposed Planned Unit Development located on Farney Ln. east of Main St. (DVI, Inc.) Ill. OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION IV. OTHER CASES/ISSUES MAY BE DISCUSSED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN LISTED ON THIS AGENDA (AS NEEDED) V. ADJOURNMENT The City of Las Cruces does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, religion, age, or disability in the provision of services. The City of Las Cruces will makereasonable accommodation for a qualified individual with a disability who wishes to attend this public meeting. Please notify the City Planning Department at least 48 hours before the meeting by calling 528-3222 (Voice) or 528-3157 (TTY). This document can be made available n alternative formats by calling the same numbers listed above. i DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE August 18, 1999 ATTENDANCESHEET " Please print. Name Organization (if any) V�Rr V1i Sh �5 W i DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE (DRC) MEETING August 18, 1999 City Council Chambers ATTENDANCESHEET * Please initial next to your name. Members: Critt Coburn (Fire) Brian Denmark(PLNG) !/ Jim Ericson(DSD) Jorge Garcia(JU) v Robert Garza(CLC Engineering) Rollie Wright (Comm. Services Adm.) Staff Present: Sheri Anderson(PLNG) Les Coffinan (Utilities) Paul Dugie (ENG) Glenn Frost(ENG) Mike Johnson(Traffic Operations) Robert Kyle (PLNG) Vince Sanchez (JU) V Dan Soriano (PLNG)