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02/06/1997 O AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING City of Las Cruces,New Mexico February 6, 1997 Members Present: Stephanie Medoff, Jim Boykin, Bill Madden, Chuck McLean, Gene Kennon, Frank Dailey Members Absent: Charles Trego Others Present: Jim Ericson, DSD Director; Ted Morris, Jr., Airport/Industrial Park Manager; Brian Denmark, Planning Director; Susan Pfeiffer, Recording Secretary; Hal Kading, Southwest Aviation, Inc.; Sherrie Evatt, Mesa Station Manager; Darren Gerrard, DAC Planning (ETZ); Harold Denton, Denton Newby Architects; Ian Harmon, Denton Newby Architects; John Moscato, Bright View Land Company; Mariann Novack, Bright View Land Company; Jack Rosenow, Aviation Day Committee Chairman. The meeting was called to order at 1:30 PM in the Airport Conference Room by Chairwoman, Mrs. Stephanie Medoff, and a quorum was noted. MINUTES: A motion was made by Mr. Boykin, seconded by Mr. McLean to accept the minutes to the January 9, 1997 board meeting. All were in favor, and the minutes were approved as submitted. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Update on Development of Adjacent Properties: Mr. Denton reviewed the proposed plans for the development of the 2,000 acres located west of Picacho Hills. A 300 acre destination resort is proposed, with the remaining acreage having mixed use (private homes, open spaces, equestrian and hiking trails, etc.). Their plans are still to annex the property to the City, and impose deed restrictions to alleviate any noise complaints. A general discussion took place on the pros and cons of such a development on the future of the airport. Mr. Denmark, City Planning Director, said they should submit their concept plan to the City Council. He also asked the Airport Advisory Board to formalize their views on the development at their next meeting, and submit them in the form of a Resolution to the City Council. AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER P.O.DRAWER CLC LAS CRUCES,NEW MEXICO 88004 PHONE 5051526-0000 -2- MINUTES -AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING February 6, 1997 Airport Manager's Report: Mr. Morris reviewed his Manager's Report on current projects and events (see attachment). Interim Rules: Mr. Morris reported that the Interim Rules had been issued, and the only problem so far has been with compliance to close and lock the gates. Mr. Morris said that every morning from Sunday until today the gates at the end of Gasoline Alley have been left open. A letter has been sent to Airport tenants informing them that this is unsafe, and asking for their help in reminding their employees, contractors, and visitors of the importance of following this rule to close and lock the gates. Mr. Morris said that if the gates continue to be left open through next week he will have the locks changed. Land: Mr. Morris said that Mr. Dearing is completing the transfer and deeding of the land that the Localizer Antenna for the ILS is on to the Airport, and that the runway clear zone on Runway 30 also needs to be deeded to the Airport. Mr. Morris said in the future he would like to have the land newly acquired from the State and Mr. Morrow's 160 acres annexed to the City, and have it zoned non-residential. Draft 5-Year Capital Improvement Plan: Mr. Morris reviewed his draft 5-Year Capital Improvement Plan, and explained it was a combination of the old plan, Master Plan, Pavement Maintenance Plan, and the New Mexico Aviation Division's 5-Year Capital Improvement Plan. Pay Phones: Mr. Morris said two pay phones have been ordered for the Airport, one will be located outside the terminal building, and the other one will be placed in the restaurant area of the Airport Management building. Aircraft Stairs: Mr. Morris said the aircraft stairs is on his list for Capital Equipment request for next year. He said they would cost approximately $5,000, and were important to have so that we would not miss any future charter flights wanting to come here, since their enplanements are counted toward the 10,000 needed for additional federal funding. NEW BUSINESS: Aviation Day Resolution: Mr. Ericson, DSD Director, reviewed the proposed Aviation Day Resolution. The Board discussed it section by section with input from others present, and proposed several changes. Mr. Dailey moved to recommend the Resolution as amended, Mr. Boykin seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. The Board decided to wait until after the February 18, 1997 City Council meeting to select the board member -3- MINUTES -AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING February 6, 1997 to serve on the Aviation Day Committee. Agenda for next Airport Advisory Board Meeting: The Board decided to devote their next meeting to completing the resolution to the City Council on the proposed land development west of Picacho Hills. They agreed to ask the AOPA, Pete Alexander (Director of State Aviation), Judy Price (County Planning), and Col. Frank Borman (former Airline CEO) for statements on their position. With no further business to conduct, a motion was made by Mr. Dailey, seconded by Mr. Boykin to adjourn the meeting at 3:30 PM. All were in favor, motion carried. AIRPORT ADVISORY BO MEETING Board, for a total of rime (9) members. Discussion on that Supplemental Minutes one. February 6, 1997 Jim Boykin: Is this what the Council recommended? Jim Ericson: The Council didn't specify the numbers. We AVIATION DAY RESOLUTION: are looking for a reasonable number. You can make it seven and drop the two additional ones, that's fine. I think that if Jim Ericson: Madame Chairwoman, I have a revised copy you think it should be larger than the nine person committee, for you. The initial draft I sent you was very rough, and in that becomes a little cumbersome at times. viewing it with the Attorney we made some minor changes. Stephanie Medoff: Do we have to have numbers at all? The basic Resolution, if I may, follows what the Council gave establishing the current six member committee, adds a Jim Ericson: Yes. member of the Advisory Board,and two additional members Stephanie Medoff. You do have to have numbers. recommend by the Advisory Board for a total of, should be Frank Dailey: Stephanie, I make a suggestion, you nine. It establishes that next year the membership will be mentioned the other day that there were several people that appointed by the Mayor based on the recommendations of wanted to get in on the committee. Maybe this would be a the Advisory Board. There is no limitation on the terms,the good thing to leave it at two additional people, if they committee has a chairperson, vice chairperson, City staff wanted to get involved in it. will provide minutes of the meetings. The chairperson and Stephanie Medoff. The six is because currently that is what the Committee has to meet at least monthly with the Airport Jack has? Advisory Board to provide a detailed briefing on the activities, and a monthly accounting of donations and Jim Ericson: That is what I understood. expenditures. The Committee prepares an annual budget Jack Rosenow: I have a question. We're talking ad-hoc, is request to go to Council. The Committee has to comply that ad-hoc to the Council or to this Board? with the Open Meetings Act, its notices have to be posted a Jim Ericson: Ad-hoc to the Council. certain amount of time in advance, and available for the Jack Rosenow: The way I understood what went on is that public. Contracts have to be pursuant to the City's the Resolution would be drafted to appoint the current Procurement Code. In that case, much like the Fourth of committee to run the 97 Show. That is what I heard,nothing July Committee, the City Manager executes the contract. about the Airport Advisory Board, it would be the current On safety, FAA or airport operation issues, the Airport committee who present names for the Council ad-hoc Manager has the final authority, and Madame Chairwoman that's the basic outline of the document as based on the committee to run Aviation Day. That is what I heard at the Council's Work Session. It is still in draft form, so if there meeting. It's my understanding that the Airport Advisory Board did not want anything to do with it. are changes we can work on making some. Stephanie Medoff Should we take it roman numeral by Stephanie Medoff. We do not want to be on the committee. roman numeral? Jack Rosenow: Now we have a point where you and me put Jim Ericson: That would be my suggestion. I would note on a member which I have no objection to. I think we got a that the roman numerals are the subdivision portion, the rest little confused as to what was said at the meeting. is background. Stephanie Medoff: No, what I meant was that we do not Stephanie Medoff. Okay,roman numeral I. That an ad-hoc want to become the committee. I think we definitely want a committee to be known as "Aviation Day Committee" is representative on the committee. hereby established. Any comments? Jim Boykin: Well Henry Gustafson said that if somebody Jim Boykin: Do we have to vote to accept each one of these wanted to be on the thing they should be able to talk to Jack as written,or something? and find out if they could be helpful or so forth. Something like that, maybe that is what this two additional thing is in Stephanie Medoff: Would we just accept the whole thing here for. But as far as I am concerned, I don't know why once we finish making whatever changes. Jack needs two additional members there if we are going to Jim Ericson: For purposes of modification I would deal have a member of the Airport Advisory Board on there. with modifications on an issue by issue basis. If you want to That is seven, that ought to be enough, otherwise how are make a modification, do a motion and second on each one. you going to get everybody together all at once? We have a Once you have the final version, as you feel comfortable hard enough time, and we don't even have seven people with it,you just vote to adopt it. Recommend it as amended. here from the Airport Advisory Board. Stephanie Medoff. Number one, okay with everybody? Stephanie Medoff. It seems to me the way this is written, it Number 11. That the Aviation Day 1997 Committee will means the six that are already on there stay on there, and consist of the current six (6) member Aviation Day then two more that want to help are welcome to join. Committee, a member of the Airport Advisory Board, and Otherwise, it has to be stuck with these six,that is why I am two (2) additional members to be recommended jointly by asking if there have to be numbers at all. the Aviation Day Committee and the Airport Advisory 1 IAL Jim Boykin: What that means is the echanism would be Ted Morris: Did the ouncil want actual names associated those people that have to come through us or we have to on this committee? How are they going to be appointed? recommend them. Right? Isn't that what it says? Just recommended to the Mayor,and he appoints them? Bill Madden: One point in favor of a couple more people Jim Ericson: For the first year it's the committee and the there is that if people burn out on this thing over the years, board agree on two additional people, and the chairman and you have more experience if you get people exposed to what advisory board appoint one member of the Airport Advisory it takes to run something like this. Board. So there is your committee. Following that Jim Boykin: Yeah,but weren't they going to redo the whole subsequent years, the Airport Advisory Board will make thing over every year anyway? recommendations and names, at least nine names, to the Bill Madden: Yeah, but at least you've got if some people Council. Which is exactly what the City Council said. need to drop out, you've got more people that have been Jack Rosenow: That's not what they said. through it. Jim Ericson: That's exactly what they said Mr. Rosenow. Ted Morris: As I remember, it was that you could have as Exactly what they said. many volunteers as you wanted, but there is a certain Jack Rosenow: As I understood it, that they would take up prestige associated with the committee,and they are actually the committee the following year. I don't see anything that the ones responsible. says the advisory board will make recommendations. Jim Ericson: In my recollection of the discussion, Mr. Stephanie Medoff: I think this year we go like this and then Rosenow brought it up that he would welcome additional next year we start over. members on the committee. Jim Boykin: Well, does anybody know anybody that wants Jack Rosenow: The point is, are we going to have to go to be on this board that has to come before us and Jack and through the advisory board every time we do this? If so, get recommended by both of us before they are approved or then I am going to say, hey, go talk to the advisory board something. Are there two more names that we know about and come back to me. I think we are tying this thing up into right now? I mean, it looks to me like the compromise a bureaucratic situation where our hands are going to be position here would be to take Jack's committee the way it is tied. I just don't think it is necessary to tie it up that and add a member of the advisory board and let it go like strongly. that for this year. Chuck McLean: There is a difference between a volunteer Stephanie Medoff. Well,we have a whole list of names. and a committee member. Frank Dailey: There are a lot of people interested in getting Jack Rosenow: Yes,I realize that. on there. Stephanie Medoff. I didn't realize that. Jim Boykin: On the board or just as volunteers on the Jim Ericson: Madame Chairwoman, we are only talking committee? about two additional people. I guess if the committee and Frank Dailey: On the committee itself. the advisory board can't come up with two names that they Jim Boykin: Well a committee when it becomes that big it agree on,we've got a problem. gets to become cumbersome. Jack Rosenow: What we are talking about here is the basic Frank Dailey: That's why I said,we have to strip it down to committee has to be appointed by the City Council as I two people and recommend those two people. understand it. Ted Morris: Out of the 25 or 30 people that have been Jim Boykin: The Council seems to feel that a member of considered earlier. this board should be on the committee. Gene Kennon: Let's decide on the nine versus fewer to start Jim Ericson: The Council believes there should be a direct with. I would suggest that we keep it at nine and all connection between the committee and the Airport Advisory committees function with less than a full compliment Board. usually. Because you would never get everybody there Stephanie Medoff. Any feelings about that from anybody every meeting, but I think that nine is probably a good else? Gene? number to shoot for, and try to get nine. If we can't, well Gene Kennon: I can appreciate the connection, defmitely, that's the way it goes,but I think we could. I would suggest and I think we need it. As to whether we need two or one to we keep it at nine. me I have no real preference or strong feelings on it one way Stephanie Medoff: Any more discussion on that? or the other. The only advantage I think you would have on Jim Boykin: Well, I guess I would like to suggest that we an uneven number is in case it came to a vote on certain reduce it to seven just to have a little discussion going here. issues. So if we are going to have the board, it should I mean, the Council more or less told Jack six was enough, probably be an uneven number, and if it is going to be less and now we are talking about adding one from the board,so than nine then it should be seven. I don't know, we are trying to get the thing going without Stephanie Medoff. Nine is good you are saying? stopping it or anything like that. To complicate it seems to Gene Kennon: An odd number. 2 me to be unnecessary, but I'm not locked into concrete on Frank Dailey: Let me just say something. Jack and Ted you this,it's just a point. have to stop your bickering and start acting like grown men Stephanie Medoff: I don't feel like it's stopping anything, here. We shouldn't be bringing this up at a [words unclear] they're still working. committee meeting, but it seems that it gets down to a Jack Rosenow: No we are not. conflict of personal just getting along together. It's got nothing to do with Aviation Day whether there is nine Stephanie Medoff: Why not? people on there or seven people on there that is going to Jack Rosenow: We are trying to get approval for a DOD change a damn thing. form that has been stopped because this Resolution hasn't Jack Rosenow: I was asked when we're progressive. Sir, been passed. We haven't been able to do a thing until this we are not. thing is resolved. Frank Dailey: What we need to do is to just get on with this Ted Morris: You haven't been able to do a thing? and stop all the BS. Anything? Or just the DOD application? Jack Rosenow: I agree. Jack Rosenow: I got the form to you. We are talking ten Jim Boykin: If it will help us get on with this, I will days to get a piece of paper back. It's already in the budget. We've asked for no more than we did last year. withdraw everything that has to do with seven, we can go ahead and go with nine if that's not going to hold anything Stephanie Medoff. What's the DOD? up Jack Rosenow: Request for support from the Department of Stephanie Medoff: This whole exercise is holding them up. Defense. So seven,nine doesn't make any difference. Chuck. Stephanie Medoff: And until you have that - what kind of Chuck McLean: [Unclear words.] Ted talked to me about support are we talking about. I don't know what we are the form,until we straighten the alignment out, and have an talking about. organization, he would be out of line sending that thing Ted Morris: It's for over-flights or static displays from the forward, and I told him that although I'm only one member Department of Defense. It also provides financial of the committee. assurances that the committee will pay for their Stephanie Medoff. Okay. transportation, meals, and their room and board, and the Chuck McLean: I don't think he is sitting on it for any price of fuel over the military contract rate for those reason until he finds out what we have as an organization to airplanes that participate. function. Jack Rosenow: That's not a City commitment. That's a Jim Boykin: The next knit-picking question is do we have sponsor commitment. The only City commitment Sir is the to pick two more people plus somebody from the board ambulance and[words unclear]. before anything[words unclear]. Jim Boykin: Can I ask a question? Frank Dailey: Not today,no. Ted Morris: But you stopped all activities on Aviation Day Stephanie Medoff: I don't see why. until you get this form? Jack Rosenow: What am I going to do? What am I going to Jim Boykin: Then I vote for nine. raise funds for? Frank Dailey: Okay. Stephanie Medoff. You are assuming that it might not come Stephanie Medoff. Do I hear a motion? through? Ted Morris: You don't need one. Ted Morris: So you have stopped all activities again? Stephanie Medoff: Okay. Number III, ready for three? Jim Boykin: Is this the subject of this particular thing here. That subsequent Aviation Day Committee members will be What I am trying to get at is this. Is the question about appointed by the City Council based on recommendations whether we have nine or seven holding anything up? Now forwarded by the Airport Advisory Board; said Jack seems to think it is. recommendations to be forwarded by the Airport Advisory Jack Rosenow: We haven't gotten approval Sir to do Board to the City Council not later than December 1 of each anything. successive calendar year. Jim Boykin: Until we get this solved and the members Jim Boykin: Sounds like a good one to me. selected,Jack can't do anything, is that what I'm hearing? Jim Ericson: For technical clarification, the correct Jack Rosenow: That is correct. language should be appointed by the Mayor with the advise and consent of the City Council. And that means that the Ted Morris: That is what he says. Mayor makes the appointment, the majority of the Council Stephanie Medoff. Why would that be? What if someone has to vote in favor of it. dropped out in June and the day before Aviation Day? You Bill Madden: Isn't December 1 kind of late? would have to stop dead and cancel it because you're short a Chuck McLean: I was going to ask that question also. member? I don't really think it would work that a way. 3 a 9avance Stephanie Medoff. We have an tober 17th in here publish a notice in indicating that a majority of the somewhere don't we? Council was going to be in attendance. When you have a Jim Ericson: The only logic for the December 1st date was quorum of the committee meeting for some type of official Council elections are held in November of odd number business,or official purpose,you have to have a notice. years and you may have a new Council coming in. So this Stephanie Medoff: I'm thinking of work sessions then. You allows them to make the appointments the first meeting in can have work sessions. The fund raising committee gets December. together and Stephanie Medoff. They start working, the committee starts Jim Ericson: Now if you have a majority of the ad-hoc working... committee, now if you've got three members of the Jim Ericson: But if you can, that was the only logic, it can committee working as a sub-committee, you do not have to be earlier. [Words unclear]. post that as a meeting. It's just like if three of you got Jack Rosenow: We start the very next day. together as a sub-committee, you don't have to post that as an open meeting. If four of you get together, for any Jim Ericson: Okay. purpose that relates to the airport business, I mean if you Jim Boykin: Would you rather have it the first of meet in the grocery store that's, there is real fine lines, but September? the intent is to conduct some type of business you have to Stephanie Medoff: October? Ted Morris: This explains it all pretty well, and there is Jack Rosenow: The first of October,no later. more copies of this over at legal. Jim Boykin: Why don't we change that to October 1 st. Stephanie Medoff: You're not getting bogged down in Jim Ericson: That's fine. every time you want to get together and have a meeting to discuss an issue, that you have to post it and all that sort of Jim Boykin: So we have to vote on that? thing. You can work. Frank Dailey: Not now. We're just working with the draft. Jim Ericson: You can work,but you have to give the public Stephanie Medoff. Oh, I thought we were going to have to advanced notice. Your making what in essence are policy approve. decisions. You can't get together and have a closed Ted Morris: You can just approve the whole thing, unless meeting. someone has an objection. Gene Kennon: If you have a majority. Frank Dailey: How about number IV? Jim Ericson: If you are going to have five members of the Stephanie Medoff. Okay, October 1st. Number IV. That ad-hoc committee there,you have to post it. membership on the Aviation Day Committee shall be for the Ted Morris: We have a monthly meeting of this committee, term of one year; however, there shall be nothing which okay, and everyone comes and they're going to make prohibits reappointment of Committee members for decisions about everything, then it is an open meeting. subsequent one year terms on an annual basis. There shall Between the monthly meetings,they get together and they're be no limit on the total number of terms a member may fund raising and they're working with this, that, the other serve. The Committee shall select from within its members thing,and groups of them get together it's not a problem. a Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson. The Airport Staff Stephanie Medoff: Okay. That's what I'm concerned shall be responsible for taking and maintaining accurate about. minutes of all meetings and forwarding copies of such Jim Ericson: As long as there are not five or more. minutes to the City Council, City Clerk and the Chairperson of the Airport Advisory Board. Stephanie Medoff: Of the big committee. The fund raising Jim Boykin: Sounds good to me. chairman who happens to be a member of the nine can get together with a group of volunteers. Chuck McLean: Who is that person? Susan? Jim Ericson: Sure,sure. Jim Ericson: Susan. Stephanie Medoff: Okay, any more questions on IV? Stephanie Medoff. When we say all meetings, what do you Everybody happy with IV? mean by all meetings? Frank Dailey: I have a question on V. I think it's Jim Ericson: The committee must have when they meet, hamstringing the chairperson of the Aviation Committee to they must have a published agenda, it has to be announced, come here every single month. I think bi-monthly ought to and they have to follow the guidelines of the Open Meetings be plenty of time. I don't know if everybody agrees with Act. that, but why chase him out here every single month. He Stephanie Medoff: Okay. So if you have a fund raising, may not have anything to do, maybe the month before or that's a sub-committee then? I mean,every time? two months before it's going to happen we might want to Jim Ericson: Let me give you an example Madam update it,we can ask for that. But I think that bi-monthly is Chairman. The City Council next Tuesday, the Supreme plenty. That is just my own personal opinion. Court is hearing oral arguments on the electric utility issue. Vernon Wilson: You also have a board member on that A majority of the Council is going to be there. We had to committee that can report. 4 Jim Boykin: I think that is a good idea Frank. Stephanie Medoff: rthink if there was a monetary cushion Stephanie Medoff: Bi-monthly? so when everything is said and done, that there is a $1,200, it doesn't come out of an individuals pocket. Then the City Ted Morris: Or as requested,whatever you want to do. will cover that, but up until that point they're counting on Jim Ericson: You can make it as requested if you want. fund raising to cover those things. If you walk out there and Gene Kennon: Bi-monthly is soon enough. get run over by an airplane. Stephanie Medoff: Bi-monthly. Any other discussion on Jack Rosenow: My kids will fight over what's left. this. Frank Dailey: Stephanie, I think that if you look at the Jim Boykin: Bi-monthly means every other month? board here,and look at the proposed word,proposed budget, Ted Morris: Yeah. we ought to say no problem with this. Because the proposed Stephanie Medoff. Number VI. That the Committee shall budget is going to include the City support. be responsible for preparing an annual budget request to be Jim Ericson: And donations, because we are estimating presented to the City Council by the first Council meeting in [words unclear]. February of every year. This budget request will include an Jim Boykin: All this does is make Jack go into a bunch of accounting of the previous year's revenues and expenditures "Mickey Mouse"stuff trying to figure out how much money for the Aviation Day events. Any discussion on that one. is going to be spent, and he hasn't been doing that, as I Frank Dailey: Sounds good. understand. Stephanie Medoff: All right,number VII. That for the 1997 Jack Rosenow: What we have is a proposed budget, we Aviation Day, the Committee will present its proposed have donations. We get back what we can [words unclear]. budget to the City Council not later than April 1, 1997. Ted Morris: The direct cost this year to the City, the direct Frank Dailey: Does that sound all right to you Jack? costs that we had to pay out in cash, $2,501. Okay, for all Jack Rosenow: (Sigh) the things that the Committee has asked for in the past. Frank Dailey: Present your budget by April 1 st. Jim Ericson: And that is not a problem. Jack Rosenow: The best I can. Ted Morris: And that is not a problem providing that. It's just should the Committee need $20,000 in its budget, I Jim Ericson: Madam Chairman, Mr. Rosenow, I guess that would think that$20,000 would include that$2,500,and not is the crux of the issue. I'm sure the Council is willing to less than that$2,500. budget adequate funds, but there has to be a specific surety Frank Dailey: Every organization has to have a budget, to as to what the City's commitment is going to be. live within the budget,and be accountable for. Jack Rosenow: Let me reiterate what I said at the Council Jack Rosenow: [Words unclear] develop a budget for (words unclear). In the past, this Committee has never everything [words unclear],when we allocate the donations, asked for direct funds to expend on the static displays, and hopefully we have enough sponsors to support it all. airshow, all we've asked for is support of the Airport itself- We wind up short, then we take care of it by person. My porta-potties, bus service, cops, and everything else. That's problem is that we don't feel comfortable making any all we've ever asked for, and that is all we will ever ask for decisions taking tax dollars to support it,the short fall. in the future as far as the current committee is concerned. But if the new committee gets together and they want to vote Chuck McLean: It's a City activity, and I think that there is for City budget, then they better find some City [words an open hand being held out here Jack. I think if they have a unclear]. I have no interest in getting direct money from the framework to look at, and then you have a short fall of"x" City to have to account for. The sponsors have been willing amount of dollars,they look at it and say"Wow." Jack took to do it. The sponsors have been willing to support this care of everything but this little portion, and the City thing[words unclear]. reimburses you. Frank Dailey: Jack, I understand the last couple of years Jack Rosenow: All we are asking for is the support to make that you had to take money out of your own pocket. the Airport suitable for the public. That's all we have ever Jack Rosenow: That is correct. asked for,and that's all we intend to ask for with the current Committee. Frank Dailey: So what the hell good is that? You're not Stephanie Medoff: I don't think 20 years down the road that running the city. you are going to be up to being the chairman of it, and Jack Rosenow: The point is, Sir, I don't object to that if it's someone else is going to be the chairman, and they may not a worthwhile cause. My concern is, I don't feel that be willing to pay it out of their pocket. taxpayers should be putting money into support flyovers or Jack Rosenow: Well at that point if he wants to propose a static displays. budget to the City, that will be up to him. I'm just saying Stephanie Medoff: But this is efficient. The fund raising is that with the group we have right now, we do the best we still going to-hopefully we will never have to dip into the. can with fund raising, and if we have an overage this year Jim Boykin: It does say proposed. we can make up for the short fall from the past. 5 Jim Boykin: Well, is this proposed enough, or do we need Jack Rosenow: AIITm asking you is that I don't want to to add another word? have to in some way tell these people what you give us is Jack Rosenow: I think this may be a very key point if I strictly between the Committee[words unclear]. understand. If we do not come to the City for specific funds Frank Dailey: You don't have to say Hertz Rent-A-Car, for us to expend now,we're talking the Committee to spend, $500 or$1,000,you just say donations a$1,000. is this thing even required? I can propose we have already a Jack Rosenow: If you agree with that, and I have the word budget submitted, we give him items we need, you propose of the Director of Development Services,fine. a budget for those items, if it's $2,500 or whatever. As far Stephanie Medoff. Most people donate money for the as I'm concerned,we don't even worry about them. We just advertising. say,Ted this is what we need,we give a list,period. Ted Morris: Or for the taxes. Frank Dailey: That is circumventing the budget operation the way you handle the budget. If you're in business at all, Jack Rosenow: All I'm saying is, if I have to give a detailed everywhere you go,you've got to have a budget. You have budget, by that I interpret I've got to say so and so gave so to live within the budget, it has to be approved by City and so a total. I just give a total amount? Council,and Mayor or someone. That's normal,even if you Chuck McLean: Back to the origin of this thing. I don't don't spend a penny of their money, and you have sponsors know how many other people here do not live in Las Cruces, taking care of everything,the budget has to be there. but I am not a City resident, so if it triggered in me a red Jim Boykin: So what this does is, this forces whoever light,you can imagine what it must trigger up at the Mayor's makes this proposed budget to come in with more than what level, and that is that we read in the paper last September, they think they might need,so that they will be covered. October,that there was a short fall,and Col. Rosenow had to Jim Ericson: No. What it requires is the same thing that the take it out of his own-pocket. Now that is a damn criticism City does with its operations, what we do in our own in who runs the City that way, and that is what triggered this personal lives. We know what revenues we are going to be whole thing in my mind about budgets. If it is going to have the City's name on it, then the City ought to handle it in a getting, and we have a pretty good idea as to what business way. expenditures we are going to have. It just says, you look at your sources of revenues, donations, and City in-kind Ted Morris: It's a City event. It has to have a budget, I services, and City direct funds. Those last two might be mean,just like the Fourth of July does. zero, I don't know, they may be something, but that's your Jim Boykin: I go back to my original statement, is proposed revenue side. You have a total amount of revenue, the enough to cover this? money you are going to have to work with, your Jim Ericson: Yes. expenditures, buses, porta-potties, paying someone to come Jim Boykin: Well if proposed is enough to cover this, let's in and do something. JoAnn Osterud,what ever it is costing go on to the next item. her, and you have specific costs, and that is your bottom line. Stephanie Medoff. Number VIII. That the Aviation Day Committee must comply with the Open Meetings Act. Stephanie Medoff: Does this mean you have to know who We've discussed that. IX -That all contracts for Aviation you are going to get,the acts you are going to try to contract Day must be approved pursuant to the City's Procurement by April 1st. Code, and entered into by the City Manager or his/her duly Jim Ericson: No. What you would say is,you could do it as designated representative. Contracts must be approved. a line item,$10,000 for static displays,$25,000 for flyovers, Chuck McLean: That's the concessionaires? whatever the numbers are. It's an estimate. Chuck McLean: But other than this year, your statement is Jack Rosenow: No, we are talking JoAnn Osterud. Do we true because, if you don't know my April 1, your not going bid on a show,or do we go to her as a sole source. to get from a lot[words unclear]. Jim Ericson: You can go to her as a sole source. Let me Stephanie Medoff: You don't have to have your funds give you an example. When I was Acting City Manager a raised by April 1 st? couple of weeks ago,the Fourth of July Committee selected who they wanted for the entertainment. It's Eddie Money, I Jim Ericson: No. guess, and they just brought the contract. They negotiated Stephanie Medoff: Your going to estimate how much your the amount, and I signed it. It was not bid. Those are goal is to raise. treated as sole sources. Jack Rosenow: The other issue is,I have talked to sponsors, Ted Morris: Because of the unique nature of the event. they are willing to support this,they do not want the amount Jim Ericson: Yes, you're just picking who you want, and of money they contribute made public. negotiate a price, and bring it forward, and the manager Jim Ericson: You don't have to. All you do is put signs it. We used the typical actors and performers contract. donations. You don't have to specify where they come It's the doggonedest thing. It's just a normal course of from. events. 6 Stephanie Medoff: In this way the ity is truly the sponsor Stephanie Medoff: rthink the problem arises in what does if they signed off on it. that waiver cover. To my understanding from reading the Jim Ericson: Yes. I didn't even know who they were entire Advisory on the waiver,the waiver is only for"in the negotiating with until they brought the contract forward. I air.„ don't know who else they looked at. Ted Morris: It's for the period of time that the FAA issues it Jim Boykin: So this doesn't put any kind of a halt on for. somebody trying to hire JoAnn Osterud. Jack Rosenow: It's a dual piece of paper. One is Jim Ericson: No,not at all. application, that's to allow the public to come out here on Vernon Wilson: The City Manager is the responsible agent the airport,and so forth. to sign this, does that make the City the contractor, rather Ted Morris: No sir,that is not true. That is not the case Mr. then the Committee? Rosenow. Ted Morris: The Committee is part of the City. Jack Rosenow: It covers from 10:00 in the morning until Jim Ericson: Yes,the Committee is part of the City. closing. Ted Morris: If you have a budget that says$10,000 for acts, Ted Morris: No sir,that is not the case. The FAA does not and you submit $15,000 worth of contracts, the City address that in the waiver. Manager is not going to sign the last$5,000. Stephanie Medoff. It really doesn't. I read the entire Jim Ericson: He might. I don't see why he wouldn't. Advisory. Jim Boykin: So the Mayor approached me after the meeting Jack Rosenow: If I might, may I have the floor Madam the other day and said, and I think some others were Chairman? You fill out the form and you identify the listening as well, none of these things have ever happened, aircraft that you have, the flying participants, and so forth, the Big Enchilada wouldn't have happened, the Fourth of when the gates are open, when the gates close, what's the July wouldn't have happened, the Aviation Day wouldn't schedule of events. Then it says on the back, if there is an have happened if it wasn't for volunteers. Jack happens to airshow, and you are seeking a waiver, you're to fill out this be our volunteer. The City does not have the budget or the portion. That becomes the waiver where the airport is manpower or anything else to go and do these things by closed for a specific period, they're allowed to go down themselves. So it requires somebody like Jack to head these below 500 feet when the airshow is conducted. So you have things off, and start them out, and do things. And what an event that runs from 10:00 in the morning, till 5:00 at you're telling me is that it is perfectly okay to do it the way night, and that is the period of time which Aviation Day he is doing it. So I propose we go on to number X. Committee is responsible for the conduct of the show. The actual waiver portion covers only 13:30 until 15:30 during Gene Kennon: In the meantime Jack, there is no conflict the airshow portion. But that document covers the entire with the Procurement Code. event from 10:00 in the morning until 5:00 in the afternoon. Stephanie Medoff Okay, number X. That on all safety, Frank Dailey: Why would the FAA be interested whether FAA, or Airport operation issues, the Airport Manager shall they show model airplanes out here, cars running around the have final authority. ramp,they don't care about that. Frank Dailey: That's a given! Ted Morris: It doesn't. Madam Chairman if I may. The Jack Rosenow: Madam Chairman,I have a question on that. FAA does not, there is no difference between Aviation Day Stephanie Medoff. Okay. when there is no flying going on,no airshow going on, or if Jack Rosenow: When the waiver application returns, the there was a group of school children out here looking at Aviation Day Committee is at that point called the Air Boss. Vernons airplane. There is no difference to the FAA. All That Air Boss is responsible for the conduct of the show. the normal rules are in effect, and the City has the liability Does the Air Boss have the authority, or does Mr. Morris and the responsibility and all that for the Airport. become the Air Boss? Specifically, the FAA identifies an individual who is responsible during the waivered period of the airshow itself, Ted Morris: The Air Boss for the event itself, he closes the the flying events. The rest of the time the City has, no I air space, he does all the talking, and the FAA issues the have that responsibility. waiver contingent upon that now being the equivalent of a Frank Dailey: So during the airshow the Air Boss is the FAR. There is no issue there. The Air Boss is responsible person designated whether it is you or someone you during the airshow. designate,he's the Air Boss. Outside the actual airshow you Stephanie Medoff. Meaning the aerial? have to go back to him and say,you want to do something at Ted Morris: The approved time of the waiver,that's correct. the Airport you've got to go through him. That's the way it is written. Jack Rosenow: The Aviation Day Committee is the people Jim Boykin: I don't see how you can do it any other way. who put on the event. Now let's say that somebody wants to Chuck McLean: And his name is on the waiver, isn't it? It fly their airplane over five times at 500 feet. has to be. Ted Morris: Is that in accordance with the FARs? 7 .Jack Rosenow: I'm asking if someone wants to do it, Jack Rosenow: The Committee has people that handle-the someone wants to fly a hand glider,or they want to jump out ground boss for instance, handles the static displays, gets of an airplane,who is going to be responsible for that action, them lined up. and does it have to be covered by the waiver? Yes it does. Jim Boykin: You want to be responsible for the safety of all It has to be covered by the application and waiver. those things during that period? Frank Dailey: The waiver covers that specifically that the Jack Rosenow: We set up a parking plan, we have the Air Boss is going to be the guy in charge. rescue folks come out and handle that for us. Jack Rosenow: No. According to what I've heard here, the Stephanie Medoff: Maybe Jim can clear this up for us. only time the Air Boss really is responsible is from 1:30 till Jim Ericson: Madam Chairman,that is the crux of the issue, 3:15 until the last flight, that I agree with. I'm saying that and that is what several of the Councillors said that when the entire event from 10:00 in the morning till 5:00 at night, the planes are in the air for the airshow, that the Air Boss is in Aviation Day Committee is responsible for the event itself. charge, but they are not going to give up the other time the Jim Boykin: Who? Responsible to the City? Is that what authority to anyone. They are holding the Airport Manager, you're saying? as the City staff person responsible for everything that Jack Rosenow: To the FAA. happens on the Airport, in any case, in any capacity, with Ted Morris: No Sir you're not. That's not correct. The the exception of the airshow,at that one small block of time. Committee is not responsible to the FAA,I am. And the Council said that's not negotiable. Jim Boykin: Even while the Air Boss is running the Jim Boykin: Okay now,let me ask you a question. Another airshow? stupid question,okay? Ted Morris: While the Air Boss is out there, if anything Frank Dailey: If it is stupid don't ask. happens that he considers dangerous,he stops the event,etc., Jim Boykin: If this guy is in charge of the whole day, he's etc. You have the FSDO looking over his shoulder. in charge of getting the ground things together and Nobody else can come and fly in, everything is closed. If everything like that, it seems to me like he would be willing there is something like an altercation in the street, the Air to delegate that to somebody that was on the ground and Ted Boss doesn't take care of that. The FAA specifically becomes responsible for those things. However, in that addresses the flying issues. case, the two of them are going to have to stop looking at Jim Boykin: What we are trying to establish here as I each other with fire in their eyes,and decide who is going to understand it,correct me if I'm wrong, is who is responsible tell who what. in what particular area? From there,the front door on out? Ted Morris: May I say something? I have been conciliatory Ted Morris: I could read it to you verbatim out of the book and I have worked very hard not to get into arguments and if you like? etc. etc., and I resent this. This is the fourth meeting in a Jim Boykin: Are you responsible while the Air Boss is row I've been at when people have accused me. running the show? Is that what you are saying? Jim Boykin: There is no accusation made here Ted. There Ted Morris: No Sir. The Air Boss is responsible for is no accusation meant here what so ever. I told you I didn't insuring the public safety during the waivered period. understand the thing, and I'm trying to understand. Now if you want to be upset about this, we can go back to your Jim Boykin: Then he is responsible to the City and the office and we can have a man to man on this thing, but I'm FAA. So you become a Lieutenant at that particular point, not trying to get into any argument with anybody. I'm just for that particular area only. trying to get all this out,so that we can solve it. There is no Ted Morris: That is correct. use going on and on with this. Jim Boykin: As far as the potties not flushing some place, Ted Morris: You're right. you don't give that up to the Air Boss. Stephanie Medoff: We all agree with that. I don't really Ted Morris: That is correct. think he's accusing you guys either,I really don't. Jim Boykin: Okay,that is the point I am trying to make. Jim Boykin: I certainly didn't intend for you to feel Ted Morris: From the time people enter the airport, until accused. everyone leaves, except for that waivered period, I am Frank Dailey: What I would look at now, I think that this responsible for the safety-period. There isn't anybody else last number X is fine just the way it is written, with the responsible. understanding the Air Boss is in charge of the airshow. Jim Boykin: Okay. I don't understand why this has grown Ted Morris: And that is covered by this statement, because to such a controversy, but I can't hear anything I don't the FAA specifically identifies the Air Boss and states he is understand. It sounds like that's the way to do it. He in charge. doesn't want to be responsible for traffic. Frank Dailey: I think that should be put right in there so that Ted Morris: Yes he does. This is the issue Jim. there is no question. During the airshow the Air Boss will be in complete control. 8 Jack Rosenow: I have a question. Who then becomes direct violation of our Part 139 Certificate at any rate. So, responsible for establishing the static display? The that's the kind of thing that-just a little thing like that looks Committee or the Airport Manager? logical at first perhaps we need, in my opinion, safety is best Stephanie Medoff. I say the Committee. Not the Chairman served if a lot of us looked at it. of the Committee,the Committee. Jim Ericson: So the debate is that there is a difference Jack Rosenow: The ground boss is responsible for that. between people versus equipment? Frank Dailey: I think those are details that should be Jack Rosenow: When I worked with John Sanders in 1994, worked out between the Committee and the Airport [word I was advised that the decision of the FSDO is that all parts unclear]. of the aircraft, this is what they told me, should be 500 feet Stephanie Medoff: That's an issue that came up last year, from the runway. Now, if he had a good day on the golf and was a big issue. course he might tell me one thing, a bad day he might tell me another thing. The point is, I called to confirm and they Chuck McLean: The Committee decides what they want, said yes. The people have to be 500 feet away. and the Airport Manager and them work out where it's going to be located. Jim Ericson: But the parked aircraft? Jack Rosenow: The parked airplanes can be closer than 500 Jim Ericson: I guess I don't understand Madame Chairman, feet. what the debate is? Jack Rosenow: The debate is, establishing a static display Frank Dailey: So what is the big problem? line according to the regulations that require the 500 foot Jim Ericson: So then don't you both agree. Aren't the two separation for the show line, which is the center of the of you saying the same thing? Then there is no problem. runway. Jack Rosenow: Now as far as the Mesa Airline is Stephanie Medoff: The center of the runway is where the concerned, I was at one end of the 200 foot section we had aerial act[words unclear],then you have to be 500 feet from set up to separate us, and Don Lang, a Captain for the that line back this way and taped off. Airline,was at the other end, and so there were experienced Jim Ericson: While they're flying? people. Frank Dailey: I think we are wasting our time Jack, I think Jack Rosenow: During the period of time the show is in we both agree that this is not a problem any longer, so let's progress. You can deviate from that prior to, for instance, if there is an airplane that they want to open up for static continue on. display. Jack Rosenow: The problem is who is going to be Frank Dailey: Ted,what was the problem last year? responsible for setting the static display, the Committee or the Airport? Ted Morris: The problem last year Sir was that Mr. Ted Morris: I think the answer is that the Committee says Rosenow stated that all the aircraft had to be 500 feet, here is our plan, and then many eyeballs look it over from everything and person had to be 500 feet from the center the safety stand point, and then it is approved and it is line of the runway. And my statement was that, no, only people had to be removed 500 feet from the center of the implemented. It's not a single individual's decision, there can be certain people identified as responsible, but it needs runway during the show time. Mr. Rosenow disagreed, went in and called the FSDO,the FSDO informed him that I to be a,especially when we talk about public safety,it has to be many people looking at it. was correct. I really don't see this as being a problem. I think Mr. Rosenow does not want to have a review of his Jim Boykin: What is the mechanism by which this happens? plans. That is what he has stated to me on numerous Ted Morris: The original request I made in November that occasions, and I would think that it would be essential started this whole process was to provide me with the ramp because not only will I review it, but I will bring it to you, plan 30 days prior to the event so that we could look at it, and I will also take it to the City Safety Officer, and so on and Mr.Rosenow objected to doing that. and so forth, to ensure that not just one person is looking at Jack Rosenow: No I didn't. safety issues on this airport when there is 5,000 people on Ted Morris: Yes Sir you did. the ramp. I think it is very important. Last year for instance, I was kind of caught by surprise when Mesa Jim Ericson: Let's not argue. Airlines was taxied in, in front of the terminal prior to the Frank Dailey: I think we have it solved. There is no public being permitted to enter, but lots of other people out problem. You're both talking the same way. there,and vehicles moving around and that sort of thing,and Stephanie Medoff. Everybody thinks it's solved except I happened to be standing right next to Wayne York who is Jack. the State Aviation Safety Officer, and he was not Frank Dailey: Jack agrees to it too. comfortable with it. That's the kind of thing had we thought more about it and looked at it and had several eyeballs look Stephanie Medoff. You do agree to this9 over the idea and concept, that we could have avoided mixing an airliner with untrained personnel - which is a 9 .Jack Rosenow: I just want to know who is responsible for Stephanie Medoff: Okay. So what were the changes. On establishing the static display. If the Committee is, we will number III we have to add Mayor with the advice and give him the ops plan. consent of the City Council,and October 1. Chuck McLean: I thought these things were called plans, Jim Ericson: October 1st, and number V - bi-monthly, which means somebody is going to look at them. number X - a second sentence that says that during the Ted Morris: Which specifically is this group sitting at this actual airshow event pursuant to FAA waiver procedures, table. the Air Boss shall have operational charge. Stephanie Medoff: The Committee plans it, and brings it to Frank Dailey: Madame Chairman, I move that we accept it the Airport Advisory Board at the bi-monthly update I as amended. would assume, the month before the thing, it comes to the Jim Boykin: Second it. Airport Advisory Board, we sit and discuss it. The Stephanie Medoff. Any discussion? Committee has discussed it previously, and has come to Gene Kennon: Going back to item X,okay,we were talking some sort of consensus,they bring it to the Airport Advisory about a 60 day notice for this plan to be presented. Should Board and we put our input into it and come to a resolution that be in the Resolution? exactly where the static display should be. Right? Jim Boykin: I don't hear anybody here saying they don't Ted Morris: No. It's a grant determined, in other words, want this thing to be safe. you need to have it prior to your submission of the waiver, and so there needs to be sufficient time to look at it and Jim Ericson: It strikes me Madam Chairman that the issue is make sure that it meets all the other requirements. the Committee makes the plan, and you have a review, and Gene Kennon: But this doesn't appear anywhere. it's their plan and there is no changes in it unless there is a question, and then at that point in time you sit down and Jack Rosenow: It's a step within the process. The waiver discuss it. and the operation plan have to be submitted. Stephanie Medoff: And it is open to discussion. Chuck McLean: You need it for the bureaucrats. Jim Ericson: It is the Committee's plan and unless there is Frank Dailey: So we put forth a motion, we voted on it, some logical and significant reason for changing it, why seconded. would you change it? Stephanie Medoff. Any other discussion? Jim Boykin: Well is this 30 day thing that he asked for, is Jim Boykin: Let me ask one question. Is there anybody that okay? here who is unhappy with what we have come up with now? Jack Rosenow: The only question about the 30 days is if we I would like to hear it right now, or forever not hear any are talking about approval of the plan to go forward to the more about it. FAA. That is to late, we are going to have to move Stephanie Medoff: Jack? everything up. Jack Rosenow: I don't have anything right now. The point Jim Boykin: What would be a good time then? is that we are really in a crunch trying to get all this job Frank Dailey: Make it 60 days. done. Stephanie Medoff: That's not written anywhere in here is Stephanie Medoff. Okay, this goes before the City Council it? The issue here,who has final authority. when? Next Monday? Frank Dailey: We already cleared that up. Jim Ericson: Tuesday the 18th. Stephanie Medoff. That is the Airport Manager as a Stephanie Medoff: Next Tuesday. Okay, then you can get representative of the City. that DOD form and you're rolling again. In the mean time,I Jim Ericson: On safety, or operation of the Airport, or FAA would assume that you can keep rolling on with whatever issues, but I can't say I'm sorry. I can't conceptualize this else should be done. issue arising where there is a disagreement. Jim Boykin: Is there anything that is going to come up Frank Dailey: If he submits a plan 60 days ahead of time later? and Ted says no,I don't like this,I don't like that,they work Chuck McLean: Yes. I think there's something implied in it out together and get rid of it. What's the problem? here but not stated. What is the chain of command for this Committee? Do we talk about, we're going to satisfy the Jim Boykin: If they have a problem,they come talk to us. Council, we're going to satisfy the Aviation Advisory Stephanie Medoff: That's number X. Board, is it implicate, or is going to have to be spelled out Frank Dailey: How about XI? like you said? Stephanie Medoff. Okay. That City staff is hereby Gene Kennon: I think this is understood. If it is in authorized to do all deed necessary in the accomplishment of Resolution form,it's adopted by the Council. the hereinabove. Chuck McLean: So the chain of commanded is Jack to the Jim Ericson: That's just gobbledegook that says if we're it, Airport Manager, to the Advisory Board, to the City we've got the authority to do it. Council. 10 Jim Boykin: Wait a minute. Jack was appointed by the City Commission. Jim Ericson: Madam Chairman, the Ad-hoc Committee is basically running the event. If there is a safety or a specific operational issue like how the Airport operates, or if it is a FAA issue, it has to be worked out with the Airport Manager. But,the Committee is running the event. Ted Morris: And they come in every other month and brief this Board. Jim Ericson: There should be no question. Chuck McLean: I agree,there should be,but actually does it have to be spelled out? Jim Ericson: No. Stephanie Medoff: Okay,any more discussion? Jim Boykin: It's been moved and seconded. Stephanie Medoff: Any other discussion? All those in favor or accepting the amended Resolution say aye. All votes aye. Stephanie Medoff. All are in favor. Thank you. Jim Boykin: I can't believe we did the whole thing. 11 AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT FOR AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD February 6, 1997-HAPPY HOLIDAYS! TEXT: YOUR NOTES: Airport Policy progress&time/phase: - Interim rules issued - Next: Proposal to City Mgr. for distribution to City Council. - Next: Public Meetings&final draft. - Next: To City Council for approval. Auto Sunshades: City Architect drafting design standards (wind, etc.). We'll then bid it out here. Aviation Day: City Council work session held Jan. 28. Council directed a Resolution to be submitted for Feb. 18 regular session to formalize the direction,details,etc. Further discussion today. Bell Helicopter: Received letter saying thanks to all concerned and that they hope to come back. BLM Land. NTR Box Canyon Road: We've determined we can close it,but have asked BLM if they would consider gating it with access controlled by BLM (like at Caballo Cave). Would require a road easement from City to BLM. "Bright View Land"development NE of Airport: Representatives should be here today to provide additional information. State Aviation Director, Pete Alexander,supports resort plan. Budget for FY 97/98. Next step is Capital Outlays for projects over next five years. CAP: Is requesting parcel with ramp&street access,utilities,etc. FAR Part 139 Inspection. Held Jan.29-30. No discrepancies rating a formal de-brief. Will receive completion letter in Feb./Mar. Will probably include some painting requirements, may recommend some RCZ extension (from 600 to 1000 feet) at approach end of RWY 30. Verbal approval to cross ACMA on painted road & modification of Snow & Ice Plan to say, basically, "Issue NOTAM with conditions. Operations at pilot discretion. Wait until it melts." Hangar Parcel Lease: Mr. Wayne Stevenson has expressed interest in Parcel 19, and plans to submit proposal letter very soon. Mr. Stevenson is retiring here from Ontario,and is a life-long pilot. ILS Transfer to FAA: Resolutions submitted to Division for Feb. 18 City Council meeting. Joe Dearing completing transfer of land for LOC antenna site from new acquisition from state this week. Legislative Proposals by State Aviation: One would require affirmative signing away of right to complain about airports if within 2 miles of an airport (this being sponsored by Municipal League). Another would set a 10-year liability limit for small manufacturers of planes (home-builts, kits, Katana, etc., but not Cessna, Beech, etc.) similar to No. Dak. statute. Designed to provide relief to General Aviation and attract small manufacturers to NM. Master Plan. Work session with City Council to be scheduled this winter/spring before report is published and submitted for adoption by Council. Pavement Maintenance. 3-year plan completed by City Engineering. Cost: $545,000 plus painting, etc. Talking with State & FAA for possible assistance. Ramp Road: Waiting for chip sealed portion of Zia Blvd. to be redone (under warrantee). Need warm weather! Rent-A-Car: No one submitted a proposal. Advantage says they'll locate at Holiday Inn, and would like to install hot-line in terminal, probably in March. Stormwater Plan: EPA enforcement division says Airport does not need NOI or Plan, but that FBOs, mechanics, etc. may. They will contact others. Taxiway A Crack Seal. Scheduled for 2nd half of February. May cause some inconvenience. Taxiway C project. - FAA has some questions of the Plans& Specs. - Fencing portion will include standardized electric gates at East& West ends,terminal,and SWA ramp entrance. - AWOS/NEXWOS still in planning stages. UNICOM Situation: City CIS still working on link between City system & UNICOM. Miscellaneous: